Butch, do you have Heinz v. Jenkins

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  1. jam237

    jam237 Well-Known Member

    I've been trying to track down a copy of this case, and haven't had any luck, its just outside of the time-frame for the LexisOne free search, darn it, so it doesn't pop up.
     
  2. crowhop85

    crowhop85 Member

    I can pull this for you. Where would you like it sent?
     
  3. Butch

    Butch Well-Known Member

    SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES

    Syllabus

    HEINTZ et al. v. JENKINS
    certiorari to the united states court of appeals for the seventh circuit
    No. 94-367. Argued February 21, 1995 -- Decided April 18, 1995


    Petitioner Heintz is a lawyer representing a bank that sued respondent Jenkins to recover the balance due on her defaulted car loan. After a letter from Heintz listed the amount Jenkins owed as including the cost of insurance bought by the bank when she reneged on her promise to insure the car, Jenkins brought this suit against Heintz and his law firm under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, which forbids "debt collector" to make false or misleading representations and to engage in various abusive and unfair practices. The District Court dismissed the suit, holding that the Act does not apply to lawyers engaging in litigation. The Court of Appeals disagreed and reversed.

    Held: The Act must be read to apply to lawyers engaged in consumer debt collection litigation for two rather strong reasons. First, a lawyer who regularly tries to obtain payment of consumer debts through legal proceedings meets the Act's definition of "debt collector": one who "regularly collects or attempts to collect, directly or indirectly, [consumer] debts owed . . . another," 15 U.S.C. ¡ì 1692a(6). Second, although an earlier version of that definition expressly excluded "any attorney at law collecting a debt as an attorney on behalf of and in the name of a client," Congress repealed this exemption in 1986 without creating a narrower, litigation related, exemption to fill the void. Heintz's arguments for nonetheless inferring the latter type of exemption--(1) that many of the Act's requirements, if applied directly to litigation activities, will create harmfully anomalous results that Congress could not have intended; (2) that a postenactment statement by one of the 1986 repeal's sponsors demonstrates that, despite the removal of the earlier blanket exemption, the Act still does not apply to lawyers' litigating activities; and (3) that a nonbinding "Commentary" by the Federal Trade Commission's staff establishes that attorneys engaged in sending dunning letters and other traditional debt collection activities are covered by the Act, while those whose practice is limited to legal activities are not--are unconvincing. Pp. 3-8.

    25 F. 3d 536, affirmed.

    Breyer, J., delivered the opinion for a unanimous Court.






    NOTICE: This opinion is subject to formal revision before publication in the preliminary print of the United States Reports. Readers are requested to notify the Reporter of Decisions, Supreme Court of the United States, Wash-ington, D.C. 20543, of any typographical or other formal errors, in order that corrections may be made before the preliminary print goes to press.

    SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES
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    No. 94¨C367
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    GEORGE W. HEINTZ, ET AL., PETITIONERS v. DARLENE JENKINS
    ON WRIT OF CERTIORARI TO THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE SEVENTH CIRCUIT
    [April 18, 1995]

    JUSTICE BREYER delivered the opinion of the Court.
    The issue before us is whether the term ¡°debt collec-tor¡± in the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, 91 Stat. 874, 15 U. S. C. ¡ì¡ì1692¨C1692o (1988 ed. and Supp. V), applies to a lawyer who ¡°regularly,¡± through litigation, tries to collect consumer debts. The Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit held that it does. We agree with the Seventh Circuit and we affirm its judgment.
    The Fair Debt Collection Practices Act prohibits ¡°debt collector¡± from making false or misleading representa-tions and from engaging in various abusive and unfair practices. The Act says, for example, that a ¡°debt collector¡± may not use violence, obscenity, or repeated annoying phone calls, 15 U. S. C. ¡ì1692d; may not falsely represent ¡°the character, amount, or legal status of any debt,¡± ¡ì1692e(2)(A); and may not use various ¡°unfair or unconscionable means to collect or attempt to collect¡± a consumer debt, ¡ì1692f. Among other things, the Act sets out rules that a debt collector must follow for ¡°acquiring location information¡± about the debtor, ¡ì1692b; communicating about the debtor (and the debt) with third parties, ¡ì1692c(b); and bringing ¡°[l]egal actions,¡± ¡ì1692i. The Act imposes upon ¡°debt collec-tor¡± who violate its provisions (specifically described) ¡°[c]ivil liability¡± to those whom they, e.g., harass, mislead, or treat unfairly. ¡ì1692k. The Act also authorizes the Federal Trade Commission to enforce its provisions. ¡ì1692l(a). The Act's definition of the term ¡°debt collector¡± includes a person ¡°who regularly collects or attempts to collect, directly or indirectly, debts owed [to] . . . another.¡± ¡ì1692a(6). And, it limits ¡°debt¡± to consumer debt, i.e., debts ¡°arising out of . . . transac-tion¡± that ¡°are primarily for personal, family, or household purposes.¡± ¡ì1692a(5).
    The plaintiff in this case, Darlene Jenkins, borrowed money from the Gainer Bank in order to buy a car. She defaulted on her loan. The bank's law firm then sued Jenkins in state court to recover the balance due. As part of an effort to settle the suit, a lawyer with that law firm, George Heintz, wrote to Jenkins. His letter, in listing the amount she owed under the loan agree-ment, included $4,173 owed for insurance, bought by the bank because she had not kept the car insured as she had promised to do.
    Jenkins then brought this Fair Debt Collection Practices Act suit against Heintz and his firm. She claimed that Heintz's letter violated the Act's prohibi-tions against trying to collect an amount not ¡°authorized by the agreement creating the debt,¡± ¡ì1692f(1), and against making a ¡°false representation of . . . the . . . amount . . . of any debt,¡± ¡ì1692e(2)(A). The loan agreement, she conceded, required her to keep the car insured ¡°against loss or damage¡± and permitted the bank to buy such insurance to protect the car should she fail to do so. App. to Pet. for Cert. 17. But, she said, the $4,137 substitute policy was not the kind of policy the loan agreement had in mind, for it insured the bank not only against ¡°loss or damage¡± but also against her failure to repay the bank's car loan. Hence, Heintz's ¡°representa-tion¡± about the ¡°amount¡± of her ¡°debt¡± was ¡°false¡±; amounted to an effort to collect an ¡°amount¡± not ¡°autho-rized¡± by the loan agreement; and thus violated the Act.
    Pursuant to Rule 12(b)(6) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, the District Court dismissed Jenkins's Fair Debt Collection lawsuit for failure to state a claim. The court held the Act does not apply to lawyers engaging in litigation. However, the Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit reversed the District Court's judgment, interpreting the Act to apply to litigating lawyers. Jenkins v. Heintz, 25 F. 3d 536 (1994). The Seventh Circuit's view in this respect conflicts with that of the Sixth Circuit. See Green v. Hocking, 9 F. 3d 18 (1993) (per curiam). We granted certiorari to resolve this conflict. 513 U. S. ____ (1994). And, as we have said, we conclude that the Seventh Circuit is correct. The Act does apply to lawyers engaged in litigation.
    There are two rather strong reasons for believing that the Act applies to the litigating activities of lawyers. First, the Act defines the ¡°debt collector¡± to whom it applies as including those who ¡°regularly collec[t] or attemp[t] to collect, directly or indirectly, [consumer] debts owed or due or asserted to be owed or due another.¡± ¡ì1692a(6). In ordinary English, a lawyer who regularly tries to obtain payment of consumer debts through legal proceedings is a lawyer who regularly ¡°attempts¡± to ¡°collect¡± those consumer debts. See, e.g., Black's Law Dictionary 263 (6th ed. 1990) (¡°To collect a debt or claim is to obtain payment or liquidation of it, either by personal solicita-tion or legal proceedings¡±).
    Second, in 1977, Congress enacted an earlier version of this statute, which contained an express exemption for lawyers. That exemption said that the term ¡°debt collector¡± did not include ¡°any attorney-at-law collecting a debt as an attorney on behalf of and in the name of a client.¡± Pub. L. 95¨C109, ¡ì803(6)(F), 91 Stat. 874, 875. In 1986, however, Congress repealed this exemption in its entirety, Pub. L. 99¨C361, 100 Stat. 768, without creating a narrower, litigation-related, exemption to fill the void. Without more, then, one would think that Congress intended that lawyers be subject to the Act whenever they meet the general ¡°debt collector¡± defini-tion.
    Heintz argues that we should nonetheless read the statute as containing an implied exemption for those debt-collecting activities of lawyers that consist of litigating (including, he assumes, settlement efforts). He relies primarily on three arguments.
     
  4. Butch

    Butch Well-Known Member

    First, Heintz argues that many of the Act's require-ments, if applied directly to litigating activities, will create harmfully anomalous results that Congress simply could not have intended. We address this argument in light of the fact that, when Congress first wrote the Act's substantive provisions, it had for the most part exempt-ed litigating attor-neys from the Act's coverage; that, when Congress later repealed the attorney exemp-tion, it did not revisit the wording of these substantive provi-sions; and that, for these reasons, some awkward-ness is understandable. Particularly when read in this light, we find Heintz's argument unconvinc-ing.
    Many of Heintz's â??anomaliesâ? are not particu-larly anoma-lous. For example, the Sixth Circuit pointed to §1692e(5), which forbids a â??debt collectorâ? to make any â??threat to take action that cannot legally be taken.â? The court reasoned that, were the Act to apply to litigating activities, this provision automati-cally would make liable any litigating lawyer who brought, and then lost, a claim against a debtor. Green, supra, at 21. But, the Act says explicitly that a â??debt collectorâ? may not be held liable if he â??shows by a preponderance of evidence that the violation was not intentional and resulted from a bona fide error notwith-standing the maintenance of proce-dures reason-ably adapted to avoid any such error.â? §1692k(c). Thus, even if we were to assume that the suggested reading of §1692e(5) is correct, we would not find the result so absurd as to warrant implying an exemption for litigat-ing lawyers. In any event, the assumption would seem unnecessary, for we do not see how the fact that a lawsuit turns out ultimately to be unsuccessful could, by itself, make the bringing of it an â??action that cannot legally be taken.â?
    The remaining significant â??anomaliesâ? similarly depend for their persuasive force upon readings that courts seem unlikely to endorse. For example, Heintz's strongest â??anomalyâ? argument focuses upon the Act's provisions governing â??[c]ommunication in connection with debt collection.â? §1692c. One of those provisions requires a â??debt collectorâ? not to â??communicate furtherâ? with a consumer who â??notifiesâ? the â??debt collectorâ? that he or she â??refuses to payâ? or wishes the debt collector to â??cease further communication.â? §1692c(c). In light of this provision, asks Heintz, how can an attorney file a lawsuit against (and thereby communicate with) a nonconsenting consumer or file a motion for summary judgment against that consumer?
    We agree with Heintz that it would be odd if the Act empowered a debt-owing consumer to stop the â??commu-nicationsâ? inherent in an ordinary lawsuit and thereby cause an ordinary debt-collecting lawsuit to grind to a halt. But, it is not necessary to read §1692c(c) in that wayâ??if only because that provision has exceptions that permit communications â??to notify the consumer that the debt collector or creditor may invokeâ? or â??intends to invokeâ? a â??specified remedyâ? (of a kind â??ordinarily invoked by [the] debt collector or creditorâ?). §§1692c(c)(2), (3). Courts can read these exceptions, plausibly, to imply that they authorize the actual invocation of the remedy that the collector â??intends to invoke.â? The language permits such a reading, for an ordinary court-related document does, in fact, â??notifyâ? its recipient that the creditor may â??invokeâ? a judicial remedy. Moreover, the interpretation is consistent with the statute's apparent objective of preserving creditors' judicial remedies. We need not authoritatively interpret the Act's conduct-regulating provisions now, however. Rather, we rest our conclusions upon the fact that it is easier to read §1692c(c) as containing some such addi-tional, implicit, exception than to believe that Congress intended, silently and implicitly, to create a far broader exception, for all litigating attorneys, from the Act itself.
    Second, Heintz points to a statement of Congressman Frank Annunzio, one of the sponsors of the 1986 amendment that removed from the Act the language creating a blanket exemption for lawyers. Representa-tive Annunzio stated that, despite the exemption's removal, the Act still would not apply to lawyers' litigating activities. Representa-tive Annunzio said that the Act
    â??regulates debt collection, not the practice of law. Congress repealed the attorney exemption to the act, not because of attorney[s'] conduct in the courtroom, but because of their conduct in the backroom. Only collection activities, not legal activities, are covered by the act. . . . The act applies to attorneys when they are collecting debts, not when they are per-forming tasks of a legal nature. . . . The act only regulates the conduct of debt collectors, it does not prevent creditors, through their attorneys, from pursuing any legal remedies available to them.â? 132 Cong. Rec. 30842 (1986).
    This statement, however, does not persuade us.
    For one thing, the plain language of the Act itself says nothing about retaining the exemption in respect to litigation. The line the statement seeks to draw between â??legalâ? activities and â??debt collectionâ? activities was not necessarily apparent to those who debated the legislation, for litigating, at first blush, seems simply one way of collecting a debt. For another thing, when Congress considered the Act, other Congressmen ex-pressed fear that repeal would limit lawyers' â??ability to contact third parties in order to facilitate settlementsâ? and â??could very easily interfere with a client's right to pursue judicial remedies.â? H. R. Rep. No. 99â??405, p. 11 (1985) (dissenting views of Rep. Hiler). They proposed alterna-tive lan-guage designed to keep litigation activities outside the Act's scope, but that language was not enacted. Ibid. Further, Congressman Annunzio made his statement not during the legislative process, but after the statute became law. It therefore is not a statement upon which other legislators might have relied in voting for or against the Act, but it simply represents the views of one informed person on an issue about which others may (or may not) have thought differently.
    Finally, Heintz points to a â??Commentaryâ? on the Act by the Federal Trade Commission's staff. It says:
    â??Attorneys or law firms that engage in traditional debt collection activities (sending dunning letters, making collection calls to consumers) are covered by the [Act], but those whose practice is limited to legal activities are not covered.â? Federal Trade Commis-sionâ??Statements of General Policy or Interpretation Staff Commentary on the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, 53 Fed. Reg. 50097, 50100 (1988) (emphasis added; footnote omitted).
    We cannot give conclusive weight to this statement. The Commentary of which this statement is a part says that it â??is not binding on the Commission or the public.â? Id., at 50101. More importantly, we find nothing either in the Act or elsewhere indicating that Congress in-tended to authorize the FTC to create this exception from the Act's coverageâ??an exception that, for the reasons we have set forth above, falls outside the range of reason-able interpretations of the Act's express language. See, e.g., Brown v. Gardner, 513 U. S. ____, ____ (1994) (slip op., at 6â??8); see also Fox v. Citicorp Credit Servs., Inc., 15 F. 3d 1507, 1513 (CA9 1994) (FTC staff's statement conflicts with Act's plain language and is therefore not entitled to deference); Scott v. Jones, 964 F. 2d 314, 317 (CA4 1992) (same).
    For these reasons, we agree with the Seventh Circuit that the Act applies to attorneys who â??regularlyâ? engage in consumer-debt-collection activity, even when that activity consists of litigation. Its judgment is therefore

    Affirmed.
     
  5. Butch

    Butch Well-Known Member

    Hey don't forget there's a Jenkins v, Heinz too.

    :)
     
  6. jam237

    jam237 Well-Known Member

    I can not figure out why LexisOne couldn't find it, it is supposed to include any supreme court rulings, and I was sure this was supreme court... :)

    Well, I thought I knew why...

    *DUH* I was stuck in the 57 varieties spelling of Heinz... :) But even that didn't work, because I searched coping the name right from it, and it still didn't pull it up.
     
  7. jam237

    jam237 Well-Known Member

    hmmmm... I am getting the feeling that I am on an Easter Egg hunt... :)

    From reading the Berger Opinion, I was expecting that there was a specific definition of 'COMMUNICICATION' which the court had established in H v. J. (#3)

    Berger Opinion
    http://www.ftc.gov/os/statutes/fdcpa/letters/berger.htm

    But after reading the opinion, I am presuming that they were mirroring the act's pre-existing definition of communications, on attorneys, because of the Supreme Court ruling.

    "(2) The term "communication" means the conveying of information regarding a debt directly or indirectly to any person through any medium."

    Although, since the court expanded the definition to include widen what is considered a 'medium' under the act, that still accomplishes what I was looking for... :)

    Be ready for me to prepare a thread that'll get an interesting conversation started... :)
     
  8. Butch

    Butch Well-Known Member

    In law the word "person" is used to describe BOTH a natural person, (like you & I) or a Corporation.

    When law means a natural person they say "natural person".

    A "consumer" is also a "person", and is covered by the definition.

    Ergo; A communication is a communication whether it goes to a natural person OR a Corporation. Whether or not it gets to the consumer (person) directly, or indirectly (through any medium) is not relevent.

    :)
     
  9. jam237

    jam237 Well-Known Member

    Well, the section of the statute that I'm looking to set on its ear, the communication is designed to be to the consumer. :)

    You may get an idea, when you see the thread that I bumped back to the top last night... :)

    I'm trying to do a 'what is validation' like thread on that topic... :)

    But the key part of Section 805(b) is reporting to a Credit Reporting Agency is only permitted if otherwise permitted by law. :)
     
  10. fun4u2

    fun4u2 Well-Known Member

    interesting post, going to look up more info thx :)
     
  11. jam237

    jam237 Well-Known Member

    The interesting post is still coming... ;)

    It's been done in the text editor, just running it through a few times making sure that it sounds right... ;)
     
  12. Butch

    Butch Well-Known Member

    That's a great idea Jam.

    I'm sure it will be informative.

    If I can help you let me know.

    :)

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