Hi all. I have filed a small claims suit against a CA in Utah. (They failed to validate, then kept reporting) I live in Fl. They(CA) have filed a motion with the court to have the case dismissed. The court cancelled my case and scheduled a hearing in the Judges chambers to hear the defendants motion to dismiss based on "my lack of jurisdiction" I thought that the FDCPA sets out that any compitant court can hear this. They sited Fl Statute 48.193. Doesnt the fact that they reported on my Consumer Credit Report establish venue, ie, I live in florida? Any Help? The hearing is set for tue 8/6/02 BTW they removed from my cr AFTER I served them with a lawsuit. Thanks!
I'm not a lawyer, but the F.S. 48.193 seems to make a case FOR jurisdiction. Maybe someone else has another take on it. As per the FDCPA: § 813. Civil liability [15 USC 1692k] (a) Except as otherwise provided by this section, any debt collector who fails to comply with any provision of this title with respect to any person is liable to such person in an amount equal to the sum of -- (1) any actual damage sustained by such person as a result of such failure; (2) (A) in the case of any action by an individual, such additional damages as the court may allow, but not exceeding $1,000; or (B) in the case of a class action, (i) such amount for each named plaintiff as could be recovered under subparagraph (A), and (ii) such amount as the court may allow for all other class members, without regard to a minimum individual recovery, not to exceed the lesser of $500,000 or 1 per centum of the net worth of the debt collector; and (3) in the case of any successful action to enforce the foregoing liability, the costs of the action, together with a reasonable attorney's fee as determined by the court. On a finding by the court that an action under this section was brought in bad faith and for the purpose of harassment, the court may award to the defendant attorney's fees reasonable in relation to the work expended and costs. (b) In determining the amount of liability in any action under subsection (a), the court shall consider, among other relevant factors -- (1) in any individual action under subsection (a)(2)(A), the frequency and persistence of noncompliance by the debt collector, the nature of such noncompliance, and the extent to which such noncompliance was intentional; or (2) in any class action under subsection (a)(2)(B), the frequency and persistence of noncompliance by the debt collector, the nature of such noncompliance, the resources of the debt collector, the number of persons adversely affected, and the extent to which the debt collector's noncompliance was intentional. (c) A debt collector may not be held liable in any action brought under this title if the debt collector shows by a preponderance of evidence that the violation was not intentional and resulted from a bona fide error notwithstanding the maintenance of procedures reasonably adapted to avoid any such error. (d) An action to enforce any liability created by this title may be brought in any appropriate United States district court without regard to the amount in controversy, or in any other court of competent jurisdiction, within one year from the date on which the violation occurs. (e) No provision of this section imposing any liability shall apply to any act done or omitted in good faith in conformity with any advisory opinion of the Commission, notwithstanding that after such act or omission has occurred, such opinion is amended, rescinded, or determined by judicial or other authority to be invalid for any reason. Gib
I'm struggling with this same issue, although different states involved. I may dismiss myself and file in Federal court. But, I THINK one of the main things you need to prove is that you were/are damanged in the state you live in. For example - where you lived when they did the violations. And your state must have specific laws regarding jurisdiction. However, don't take my word for it - this is something that needs to be researched. I'll share anything I find out with you - feel free to email me. Mommy2cats
Here are the pertinent references from the FDCPA SECTION 813 -- CIVIL LIABILITY Section 813Â (A) imposes civil liability in the form of (1) actual damages, (2) discretionary penalties, and (3) costs and attorney's fees; (B) discusses relevant factors a court should consider in assessing damages; (C) exculpates a collector who maintains reasonable procedures from liability for an unintentional error; (D) permits actions to be brought in federal or state courts within one year from the violation; and (E) shields a defendant who relies on an advisory opinion of the Commission. 1. Employee liability. Since the employees of a debt collection agency are "debt collectors," they are liable for violations to the same extent as the agency. 2. Damages. The courts have awarded "actual damages" for FDCPA violations that were not just out-of-pocket expenses, but included damages for personal humiliation, embarrassment, mental anguish, or emotional distress. 3. Application of statute of limitation period. The section's one-year statute of limitations applies only to private lawsuits, not to actions brought by a government agency. SECTION 816 -- RELATIONS TO STATE LAWS Section 816 provides that the FDCPA pre-empts state laws only to the extent that those laws are inconsistent with any provision of the FDCPA, and then only to the extent of the inconsistency. A state law is not inconsistent if it gives consumers greater protection than the FDCPA. 1. Inconsistent laws. Where a state law provides protection to the consumer equal to, or greater than, the FDCPA, it is not pre-empted by the federal statute.
Thank you for the help! I thought my stand was okay when I filed in the first place. I was just flabergasted when the judge dismissed and granted the defendant the hearing in chambers. The violations (CA did not validate...cont to report to CRA) happened while I lived in Florida. Doesnt it say somewhere that reporting on CR is collection activity? My thinking was; my credit report has my address on it(FL) the CA continued to report on my CR during my request to validate. The negative info affects me here and now. I thought that was enough to establish jurisdiction. If what this CA is trying to do is legal, what about companies that set up their headquarters in another country(tax havens), does that mean we can't sue them? NOT! Thanks
The problem is that these judges know about as much as the CA's do. In my opinion many of them should be making $8.50 per hr. too.
they're going to argue that it should be a US District issue and they'll hope that the idea of getting a lawyer to file it there will make you go away. Go in and argue as well as you can and see what happens... Then... if it gets dismissed file it in US District.. then they'll likely back down. they're trying to intimidate and stall you. Do you have actual damages? that helps...
I understand that damages helps. Do you need actual damages to make a case? The FDCPA speaks of violations, $1000.00 per violation. I was damaged with negative info on my cr for YEARS, I could not buy a house, get a credit card, and so on. However, once the neg info was deleted from the cr, I bought a house and have credit cards. Yet I am the same person that this co has defamed for years! BTW this debt was not mine. The co fabricated it. They basically held me hostage by reporting, and when I requested validation they ignored me, and up'd the amount from 800 to 2500, now this. I have just learned about my rights per the FCRA, and FDCPA within the last year. What a difference it has made! Not one creditor could validate, our scores were in the low 500, now we are close to 700! All thanks to the message boards on the web! Thanks