hi.. pbm was kind enough to change my id (imlost) for me, I did not think imlost was appropriate. true, Im still lost on many things, but I found CN, so now im just 'mark' I actually wanted it to be mark to begin with, but my email provider was trashing (/dev/null) CN emails thinking it was spam or something. so I had to sign up under a different id when the confirmation emails never arrived. so imlost=mark thanks.