Continued Collection Activity after VOD

Discussion in 'Credit Talk' started by BR, Feb 26, 2007.

  1. BR

    BR Active Member

    If a VOD was submitted to a CA and there was no response to a request for additional info, couldn't this be considered 'continued collection activity' if the CA knowingly sells the disputed account to another CA?
     
  2. cap1sucks

    cap1sucks Well-Known Member

    Well, I tend to think that it could not be called continued collection activity.
    However, I believe that there are other sections of FDCPA which specifically forbid that.
     
  3. collectman

    collectman Well-Known Member

    No. A collection agency has the option to sell or validate the debt.
     
  4. cap1sucks

    cap1sucks Well-Known Member

    Where do you find that in FDCPA?
     
  5. collectman

    collectman Well-Known Member

    Not listed under the FDCPA, however, ACA has posted this, which is where I got the information from.

    If a consumer requests verification of a debt within 30 days of their receipt of the validation letter from the collector, the collector may either (a) provide verification and resume collection activity, or (b) cease collection activity until verification is furnished. Sometimes, collection activity is halted and the account is returned to the original creditor or cancelled. In that case, if the collector never resumes collection activity on that debt, the debt collector is not obligated to provide verification.
     
  6. cap1sucks

    cap1sucks Well-Known Member

    Quite so! ACA is putting out the truth according to the law almost word for word. So let's accept what ACA says as being the whole truth of the matter.

    Please show us where ACA said that the collector has the right to sell, assign or transfer the debt to another 3rd party debt collector?
     
  7. collectman

    collectman Well-Known Member

    It was a statement made by the ACA Ethics and Professional Committee on a conference call in regards to a complaint that was filed.

    The FDCPA doesn't say that a collector MUST validate, all it says is that if you ask for validation, they must cease all collection efforts until they provide it. It does NOT serve to prevent a CA from dropping the whole thing and selling the debt to yet another CA. They NEVER have to validate, they can just wash their hands of it - ceasing collection efforts themselves - let the next CA do it.
     
  8. cap1sucks

    cap1sucks Well-Known Member

    That's the only part of what you are saying that I have a problem with.

    But then, I don't care to argue about it either. If you want to believe that and end up getting sued then that's your problem. I'd say that isn't very likely to happen any time soon.
     
  9. collectman

    collectman Well-Known Member

    I understand where you are coming from, but every agency does it. Anyone can call ACA and ask them if that is legal or not and they will advise it is their choice to do so. You wont find anywhere in the FDCPA that prohibits the sell of a debt just because they choose not to validate it.
     
  10. ontrack

    ontrack Well-Known Member

    And when they sell it, or offer it for sale, do they notify the buyer that the debt is already "in dispute", in accordance with FDCPA:

    "§ 807. False or misleading representations [15 USC 1692e]
    A debt collector may not use any false, deceptive, or misleading representation or means in connection with the collection of any debt. Without limiting the general application of the foregoing, the following conduct is a violation of this section:
    ...
    (8) Communicating or threatening to communicate to any person credit information which is known or which should be known to be false, including the failure to communicate that a disputed debt is disputed. "
     
  11. cap1sucks

    cap1sucks Well-Known Member

    I won't dispute that statement but only because I don't have the time to do the research to see if you can be proven wrong or not.
     

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