Will they settle prior to a judgment being entered?

Discussion in 'Credit Talk' started by NJTXGirl82, Dec 9, 2007.

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  1. NJTXGirl82

    NJTXGirl82 Well-Known Member

    Hi-

    I had an old credit card from college which I am now guessing I didn't pay. I went through a major financial drama in the middle of college and stuck my head in the sand and basically didn't pay.

    I probably received letters but continued my ostrich mentality and didn't read them and threw them away.

    The amount they are suing for is for 2400. I don't have the money upfront nor do I have anything in savings. I have 35 days to reply to the summons from the court (in NJ) or the judgment defaults in their favor for the full amount.

    I contacted the lawyer via phone and email today requesting the doucments relating to the case. My question is:

    Will they accept payment from me so that a judgement is not entered? I do not want this entered on my credit report--I'm willing to pay up to 1600 (seeing as 700 of the money is accrued interest and fees). I can give them 800 in January and 800 in February. This just means that I'll be living very lean for quite some period of time.

    Any advice, thoughts on the proposal? Do you think they will accept?
     
  2. collectman

    collectman Well-Known Member

    You may be able to pay 50-75% of the current balance, but with you already being served, I wouldn't count on it, especially since your first payment isn't until January. You would have better luck offering 400-400-800, if they even accept that offer. As per most credit card contracts, you're still required to pay all the interest at the default, or state allowed rate, until the card is paid off.
     
  3. NJTXGirl82

    NJTXGirl82 Well-Known Member

    Can I still avoid the judgment though?

    Also--isn't what I'm proposing better than what their alternative is? I can file my response with the court asking for more information by the 35th day and then it's delayed further...this way, they get some of the money in January and the rest in February and we can all call it a day.
     
  4. enigma

    enigma Well-Known Member

    Do you live in NJ?

    Who is suing, the CC or a CA?

    What is the SOL for your state?

    Were you dunned by the atty and if so, did yuou DV?

    Who is the CC?

    Have you answered the complaint?
     
  5. NJTXGirl82

    NJTXGirl82 Well-Known Member

    1. It's the Collection Agency--Unifund CCR LLP
    2. The card was opened in TX, but I live in NJ now. I believe the statute for both is around 6-7 years.
    3. They probably tried to contact me before, but my mail is delivered to my cousin's house. If they think it's junk, they junk it for me...so there wasn't any debt validation involved. The only reason I got this was because it was sent via certified mail from the Superior Ct of New Jersey.
    4. The CC was opened by Citibank--probably defaulted in 2002/2003
    5. I haven't answered the complaint (yet).
     
  6. NJTXGirl82

    NJTXGirl82 Well-Known Member

    ?? Sorry, but this is making me really nervous. The lawyer still hasn't called me back.
     
  7. Collector2

    Collector2 Active Member

    Call the courthouse..find out your options

    Call the courthouse and find out when will the hearing date be.

    If you can, appear or send a letter to the courthouse to continue the case until you can.

    If you appear and I highly suggest you do, you can work out a stipulated judgment or a settlement with the lawyer in the courtroom.

    Trust me, judges are really lenient on pro se defendants, normally if the lawyer appears to be a a-hole, the judge will work in your favor.

    I know for a fact, that some of the judges/commissioners see these lawyers everyday and know that they are just a step above abulance chasers, the reason that these CA get away with some of the crap they do, is that the defendant does not show up in court. If you show up and show a little bit of a clue and a willingness to handle your business, the judge/comissioner will show you mercy.

    I have one other question, were you personally served? If not, you have an out or a reason to vacate.

    I collect for a living, but I don't like to see people victimized, check out your local statues on appearances in court and grow a back bone and fight. Also check out

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    This sight is empowering.
     
  8. jlynn

    jlynn Well-Known Member

    Texas is 4 years. I'm getting differing info for open-ended accounts in NJ, ranging from 3-4 years. You should research this further, and verify exactly when you defaulted on the debt in question. You may have an affirmative defense.
     
  9. jlynn

    jlynn Well-Known Member

    I would get the documents directly from the courthouse. The lawyer suing you is not your friend.
     
  10. Oracle

    Oracle Banned

    You might want to get both to see how the suing lawyer may be salting the record. :)
     
  11. collectman

    collectman Well-Known Member

    NJ SOL are 6 years both on open account and written contract.

    So if the ddate of last payment or date of first deliquency as you say was in 2002-2003, they appear to be within the SOL.

    If they have already paid an attorney and the court costs, I still think they'll go after the judgment. If you default on those arrangements, they'll have to spend more money to file again.
     
  12. enigma

    enigma Well-Known Member

    Do you have the original card agreement? If not, the use Discovery to get it.
     
  13. GreatWhite

    GreatWhite Banned

    Collector2: my opinion of what the OP is talking about trying is that such a substantial offer would make the plaintiff believe there was more money to be had and possibly hold out for the full amount. As a collector, what do you think?

    Personally, I would offer the original value plus $100 for attorney fees and make it clear that if it goes to court you'll claim usurious interest and make them prove their right to the interest. If they don't have a right to that amount of interest (or more) then it should be a violation of the FDCPA.

    Interestingly, NJ's usury rate is capped at 50% for corporate loans, 6% for Texas, and I believe 5% in Deleware. I may be mistaken but I think the contract with Citibank puts contract law under Deleware. If you can borrow Deleware or Texas law, you can probably claim the usury and nail them for the violation.
     
  14. apexcrsrv

    apexcrsrv Well-Known Member

    Sorry but, I have to inquire as to why there a link to another consumer message board on this one? There is plenty of pertinent information to be found here and frankly, that link is pretty disrespectful to the intent and admins of this excellent forum who founded a long while back and maintain it today.

    Now, I apologize to pipe up about this if there is some fashion of Agreement between the board admins between creditnet and the other but, this is the first time I've seen a poster come on one message board and a link to another one. Maybe this has been permitted and if so, I apologize for the below and the above. However, it seems unlikely that a very new new poster could have obtained such permission. The link just seems unnecessary and essentially, a dig at this site given all the time, money and effort it takes to maintain this forum.

    That said, yes, there is a link in our signature. However, we do not compete with creditnet.com. We add our opinions and suggestions free of charge, for what they're worth, and in conjunction with the overall intent of this board which is to share information. We also cleared doing so before adding it a long while back. We do not hide it within posts and thus, I don't think these two links are comparable. In any event, I just wanted to clarify that before any stones were cast in our direction.

    In any event, again, this link is misplaced for obvious reasons absent an Agreement. It has the effect of steering viewers to another board when the same information, and better, can be found here. I'm not saying that there isn't good information to be found other places but, there is no need to suggest going elsewhere on a board as good as this one. In fact, it seems the original question had already been aptly responded to.

    Personally, as a long time member who would like to see this board continue to progress unencumbered, I would ask the poster to kindly remove this and refrain from doing so anymore.

    Again, if there is some fashion of agreement, I humbly retract my statements.
     
  15. Oracle

    Oracle Banned

    This board bashing sucks, and is, in and of itself, disruptive.

    It is clear, Apex, that you do not like NAME REMOVED BY MOD. That's fine. Others might find it useful.

    Each of us is entitled to judge on our own, wouldn't you think?

    I would think that it becomes an issue only if you elect to make it one.

    Debating the relative merits of one board over another, here, might not be respectful of the interest of the owners and administrators of this board.
     
  16. Collector2

    Collector2 Active Member

    I have to agree with Oracle

    I was not promoting one board against the other, I like both. I think that NAME REMOVED BY MOD offers the OP options on how to answer the complaint and also instills a sense of empowerment to the distressed. She was served with notice from the court and my advice is for her to look at the merits of the case.

    1. Was she personally served

    2. Did she contact the courthouse for directions on how to answer or attain a copy of the original complaint.

    3. If after all of this, does she have the ability to appear in court and present her side of the story.

    4. Most CA love when a def does not put up a fight. Personally, my judgments go smoothly when the def ignores the courtcase. If a person gets involved or even calls me, I advise them to show up in court and be heard.

    I have lost 5 cases by a person showing up in court and been required to give a person a stipulated judgment for $50/month on a $5k debt. This person is still paying and there is not crap I can do about it. The comissioner took mercy on this person and when I check pub records for this person, well lo and behold, there is no public records.

    So Apex, re-read my intent and let it go.
     
  17. apexcrsrv

    apexcrsrv Well-Known Member

    I would think you can judge the merits of another board by visiting that board directly. I was simply stating that is not proper to place a link for it here. It would be like if allowed Lexington Law to visit us and then they started advertising on our site and in our office.

    I am not debating the merits of anything. The link should not be here. That is my opinion and I would feel the same if it were vice versa.

    There is nothing from my post above which espouses a feeling towards any other board beside creditnet. I'm not bashing anyone or anything. I simply said it was rude and shouldn't be here.
     
  18. apexcrsrv

    apexcrsrv Well-Known Member


    I didn't question your motivation, I simply opined that the mere act was misplaced.
     
  19. CCN Mod

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    We do appreciate the contributions you all have given to this board, and we assure you Creditnet is not siding with one member or one group of members on this issue. We are focused on being fair to all members and keeping a clean board.
     
  20. CCN Mod

    CCN Mod Administrator

    This post is now closed. If anyone would like to discuss further the secondary issue at hand, please PM a mod. OP is more than welcome to start a new thread regarding her original issue if she still has more questions.
     
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