Frostv: Apex AU's finally showed up!

Discussion in 'Credit Talk' started by frostv, Jan 7, 2010.

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  1. CTF388

    CTF388 Well-Known Member

    Why.

    Because in the past you have argued with yourself.
     
  2. cap1sucks

    cap1sucks Well-Known Member

    Even if that were true what difference does that make? Something to raise a fuss about is all.
     
  3. CTF388

    CTF388 Well-Known Member

    Truth in advertising.

    Credibility.
     
  4. cap1sucks

    cap1sucks Well-Known Member

    Advertising isn't allowed here. If he starts in trying to sell his program here he will probably get booted by the moderators again.

    credibility? I've seen him say right here and in other places that he don't want anybody to believe anything he says. Credibility and knowledge go hand in hand. If someone shows over time that they are knowledgeable then they also have credibility. Credibility is also built on how well a person's ideas work. They may say things that seem outrageous on the surface of it but if they are prove to work then credibility is established and proven.

    I recommend setting up corporations for the average man whether one is deeply in debt or not and whether one is in business or not. I say that a corporation that is properly set up and managed cannot be busted by creditors or anyone other than a government agency such as IRS or SEC (for instance). I say that a new corporation can be set up and have good credit and a provable income in as little as 12 weeks if you know how to do it.
    I say that such a corporation can be used to reduce taxes. Those statements probably sound pretty incredible to many people but does that mean I have no credibility?
    As most of us know here Bauer has been booted from this and other forums for getting into arguments and trying to sell his product where advertising isn't allowed. On the other hand, he didn't just sneak in here on yet another fake name this time. He was specifically invited here by one of the moderators who regularly post on facebook. My suggestion to you is let the moderators do their job as they see fit.
     
  5. CTF388

    CTF388 Well-Known Member

    Apex's continuing business issues are of interest because of his previous omnipresence with his not-so-subtle self promotion. People believed him; experiences with him are appropriate for conversation and quite relevant. Somebody, who over time, has shown his business practices worthy of comment should be interested in addressing the issues.

    As for the second part of your question, to which personality should I address an answer?
     
  6. apexcrsrv

    apexcrsrv Well-Known Member

    I'll address Mr. Dennis's comments . . . the accounts are there now, all meet the requirements pursuant to our Agreement, and he has not stated that his "FICO" hasn't been raised. A reasonable person would be hard pressed to argue that four accounts (the number prescribed in our Agreement, the fifth was for free and has not had sufficient time to report) which are all roughly 12 to 13 years old would not significantly raise an actual FICO score.

    Keep in mind that this was AFTER HE made threats against me and my family per a PM on this board, reported it to the WV AG and WV State Police. People need to realize that while we do the best we can, mistakes do sometimes occur but, we do make every effort to make the situation right. This is not a business for the faint of heart insofar as everyone seems to presume that we're out to get them. The honest truth is we want the process to work more than anyone so that we don't have to field complaints and the honest truth is the processes we employ virtually always work.

    Are we perfect, no. But, do we deserve some of what has came our way, no. Do I deserve to be drug through the mud when Apex Credit Services, LLC is a corporation? I say no but, alas, it is what it is. Perhaps, when someone buys a PC and windows crashes they get on the net and blame Bill Gates personally? Seems illogical.

    We've been dealing with it for years and will continue to deal with it. We're not going anywhere while the average credit repair organization closes shop in less than a few months. We must be doing "something" right and must have been doing this "something" since for roughly five years.

    Thank you to our supporters.
     
  7. amigo32

    amigo32 Member

    I`ll try to keep a positive attitude and think that something has gone wrong because it has been 6 month and still nothing is showing on my report,i just wish that i had been told the waiting time for those AU`s account to boost you score was going to take a year or six month therefor i would not be here or emailing you
    asking about what has gone wrong,I really believe that something when wrong
    that it has taken so long for any result to show but not getting a concrete answer as to what could it be makes me wonder and ask question and once again i like to repeat myself that i dont call nobody names or try to insult anybody here as a matter of fact i have clearly say that conmunicating with you thru emails has been good sometimes takes a little longer for you to answer
    but you always do,I hope this get resolve and maybe i get that little boost on my score
    thanks all...and lets have respect for eachothers everytime with use post a comment here.
     
  8. apexcrsrv

    apexcrsrv Well-Known Member

    Well, it's impossible to ascertain who you are here and we wouldn't reveal your identity even if we could. "I" chose to with respect to Jeffrey Dennis for the extremes he took things to. All I would ask is that anyone that has an issue with our services communicate with us. It is evident that you are so I'm not directing that towards you. Please continue to communicate any and all issues to us and we will rectify them.

    In addition, I personally thank you for not taking the position that a very few have.
     
  9. jjgross

    jjgross Well-Known Member

    I would like to thank apex and amigo for their posts which should clear this up as to time frame of reporting and be able to talk in a public forum for ALL to see.Can we now put this to bed,and get back to helping others.
     
  10. apexcrsrv

    apexcrsrv Well-Known Member

    Agreed . . . and, once more, I thank Amigo.
     
  11. billbauer

    billbauer Well-Known Member

    A better question is how many has he had? I really haven't kept track so I don't know. I'm guessig maybe two or three at most. Am I wrong about that? You tell me.

    But in reality it isn't important how many a company has had but rather how they handle those complaints that counts. Any company in business anywhere for any length of time is bound to get some complaints. If you want some examples of that just look at any bank and especially the big ones. Check them out with the BBB and you may be very surprised to learn how many unhappy customers they have had but no matter how many they get they have excellent records with the BBB because they donate big bucks to the BBB. Look at all the credit bureaus. Each of them not only have tons of complaints but have each been sued hundreds if not thousands of times by their unhappy customers including the banks and many big corporatios. Check them out with the BBB and they all have stellar records with no unresolved complaints. Why? Because they pay the BBB big bucks to keep it that way. So do they care about the gripes and lawsuits against them? Not in the least because they can buy their way out of almost any scrape and nobody is going to put them out of business. Not even the U.S. Government. It isn't how many complaints you get, its how you handle them that counts.
    If you believe that then why are you not voting with your fingers? That's what most reasonable people would do.
    Or maybe the prospective purchaser thought he could get a going business for peanuts and Apex wasn't stupid enough to fall for it. Maybe the economy got to the prospective buyer and now s/he/it is running from creditors and possible bankruptcy like millions of other American citizens and companies. Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe. Maybe it don't make any of us any difference what happened. Its none of our business what happened.
    What good would that do? If he really wanted to be here he would get back in no matter what was done to ban him. Even if he couldn't get back in to post he could easily read everything ever posted on this or any other board or web site he chooses. All he needs to know is how to use feedity or any one of a dozen other services who will scrape everything off of this or any other web site or blog or forum and feed the results to a set of Yahoo pipes then feed that output to feedburner and saddle that feed with a google adsense account and make better money that way than he will ever make posting here or any other forum and won't even have to lift a finger to do it once he has it all set up. The checks just keep on rolling in month after month, all on autopilot. Blogs are the easiest to do that with but it can be done with any forum or web site. Every time somebody clicks on one of those google ads it brings in another dollar. Now facebook is all set to beat the pants off of Google in the search advertising marketing area. They have far more viewers than google ever thought of having and can easily make it real painful for Google and other engines. These days it isn't necessary to advertise by spamming message forums such as this one. Doing so don't bring in any money anyway. I'll bet Apex hasn't made even a dollar an hour for the time he has spent here in this forum and no matter how much he posts he isn't likely to do any better. That is true of this forum and most other forums such as this one. The very best they can do is teach others how to do things and in the process learn from other posters as well

    I hate to say it this way but for lack of a better way to say it I'll say that these message boards are nothing but a school of hard knocks. Nothing wrong with that whatsoever. That's fine with me and it should be fine with everybody else too.

    I'm sure some will want to know why I say that is true so I'll explain. Whatever I might say that is wrong somebody is sure to correct me and I'll learn from the experience. I'll research what they tell me to be sure they are themselves correct and if they are I'll know better than to make the same dumb mistake next time. That's about the best definition of the term school of hard knocks that I know of. Additionally I've learned a lot more than just that from this and other boards. They are all schools of hard knocks and quite frankly I'm glad they are. I'm not complaining a bit.

    To make matters even better I've also learned that those who think they are my worst enemies are actually my best friends and for the same reason. I'm not the least bit upset when I am attacked by some other poster. After all, if they see fault in me then maybe it is something that I am doing that needs to be corrected and I'll try my best to make sure they don't have anything to complain about in the future if their complaints are indeed valid. No matter what I do I'm not going to please everyone and neither is Apex. Knock him all your want as far as I'm concerned. I'm confident that Apex is the kind of man who will take things more or less the way I do and use any complaints to do better in the future. You can't ask more than that of anyone.
     
  12. apexcrsrv

    apexcrsrv Well-Known Member

    Everything written on the internet is true and even when someone sues someone for libel, it's still true.

    I don't deny we've had complaints. However, we do address them and if valid, rectify them. We sued Rip Off Report. It is still pending. We have ZERO unresolved complaints with the BBB.

    However, we're obviously out to get people and someone with all of two posts would know that. How many unresolved complaints have we ever had on this board from AN ADMITTED CLIENT? None.
     
  13. apexcrsrv

    apexcrsrv Well-Known Member

    Here we go again . . . we are not member of the Tennessee BBB insofar as we first opened in WV and then moved the LLC to Tennessee. We are a member of the WV - Greater Canton, Ohio BBB Chapter. Call Terry Corzine or simply visit https://www.bbb.org/online/consumer/cks.aspx?ID=10702169393120&n=44495.

    I wasn't even aware of us having a file in TN. Moreover, the rating is due to the business rather than any complaint.

    In any event, I'm sure that won't satisfy you either and frankly, I don't care. Are you a client or just a shill?
     
  14. apexcrsrv

    apexcrsrv Well-Known Member

  15. apexcrsrv

    apexcrsrv Well-Known Member

    Okay, let's see legitimate complaints from actual clients where we didn't perform.
     
  16. Creditnet

    Creditnet Administrator

    For the last time, please take your personal arguments regarding this matter somewhere else.

    This thread is being shut down, as it's not going anywhere productive and detracts from the focus of our forum. In addition, anyone who continues to start different threads and post personal attacks against any forum members will be banned immediately.

    The rest of the members on this board who are here to actually help and try to answer people's questions are frankly sick of the constant bickering and name calling. Previous posts regarding the matter, both positive and negative, stand for all to read.

    Thanks for your cooperation.
     
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