Which can hurt a score more?

Discussion in 'Credit Talk' started by mindcrime, Jan 6, 2013.

  1. mindcrime

    mindcrime Well-Known Member

    I know it's not an exact science...but just looking for opinions on which hurts a credit score more:

    An open installment account (60 month term, close to being closed) with 3 late pays scattered throughout it

    Or

    A paid/closed collection account

    On one bureau I'm getting closed to having only the former reporting and wonder whether once the latter is removed if I can expect a decent shove north for my score.
     
  2. Logan Abbott

    Logan Abbott Well-Known Member

    Payment history is the number one factor when it comes to your credit score, w/ amounts owed a close second. So, I would expect a modest bump in your score once the latter is closed, but those late or defaulted payments appear to be the biggies there w/ the limited info I have.

    Let us know if you could, since this will be interesting to see one way or the other!
     
  3. mindcrime

    mindcrime Well-Known Member

    Will do Jason.

    Once this CB's report updates to where I want/expect it is going (though may be a few more months to go, but happy with my so-far progress), I'll basically have:

    2 Accounts 'Good Standing'

    -- one an open, small CC
    -- one a closed auto loan (perfect history)

    2 Accounts 'Potentially Negative'

    -- one an open auto loan with 2 late pays
    -- one a closed auto loan with 3 late pays (but now listed as Pays As Agreed, which doesn't mean much I suppose)

    I've tried getting forgiveness from the OC of the auto loans; got back generic letters of 'we report only accurate information"...etc.

    I realize this won't be a 'clean' report, but it will be the closest I've been in a number of years and hope that the late pays (especially since the 3 on the closed account are from 4+ years ago) don't mean much when applying for CR elsewhere.
     
  4. jam237

    jam237 Well-Known Member

    So, Jason, my 26k in student loans that the USDOE is reporting to look like over 35x that would have a substantial affect? :)
     
  5. Logan Abbott

    Logan Abbott Well-Known Member

    Mindcrime - Awesome, and yes that all sounds optimistic.

    JAM - Ha, unfortunately... Here's an old blog detailing FICO scores. Amounts owed can = 1/3rd of scores, according to Fair Isaac. (Doesn't seem so "fair", huh...? Sorry, I've got terrible jokes this morning.)
     
  6. jam237

    jam237 Well-Known Member

    Well, if I could get an expert witness to detail how $26,611 of debt looking like $939,204 of debt would create substantial economic hardship because of the impact of the amount owed looking incorrect. :)

    Yes, a blow-up of 35.293825861485851715456014430123 x the amount of the account. :)
     

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