I have sent a validation for a debt that I have already paid. Mailed it on 2/5 but yet to get the green card back. hmmm.... Anyway, once I get that back and they have not supplied me with the evidence of the debt, then I will send the estoppel. Should I ask for my money back in the estoppel, since they did not provide proof that the debt was mine? I am in good mind to request my money back and deletion of the collection account from my credit reports. Is there anything else I should request? I will also be putting my version of this letter together (thanks to whomever introduced this letter to the board) ------------------------------------------------------------ To Whom It May Concern: As I have not heard back from you in over 60 days, regarding my demand for proof, since my notice of dispute and you have not supplied the demanded proof of the alleged debt, under the doctrine of estoppel by silence, Engelhardt v Gravens (Mo) 281 SW 715, 719, I may presume that no proof of the alleged debt, nor therefore any such debt, in fact exists. In a good faith effort to resolve this matter amicably, I restate my demand for proof of the debt, specifically the alleged contract or other instrument bearing my signature, as well as proof of your authority in this matter. Absent such proof, you must terminate this collection action and correct any erroneous reports of this debt as mine. For the record, I state again that as I have no account with you, nor am I your customer, nor have I entered into a contract with you, I must ask for the following information: 1) Please evidence your authorization under 15 USC 1692 (e) and 15 USC 1692 (f) in this alleged matter. 2) What is your authorization of law for your collection of information? 3) What is your authorization of law for your collection of this alleged debt? 4) Please evidence your authorization to do business or operate in the state of Florida. 5) Please evidence proof of the alleged debt, including specifically the alleged contract or other instrument bearing my signature. You have 15 days from receipt of this notice to respond. Your failure to respond, on point, in writing, hand signed, and in a timely manner, will work as a waiver to any and all of your claims in this matter, and will entitle me to presume that you sent your letter(s) in error, and that this matter is permanently closed. Your continued silence is unacceptable. Either provide the proof or correct the record to remove the invalid debt from my credit files with the three primary credit-reporting agencies. You are currently in violation of the Fair Credit Reporting Act and the Fair Debt Collection Act. Failure to respond within 15 days of receipt of this registered letter (with return receipt) will begin my small claims action against your company. I will be seeking $5,000 in damages for the following: 1) Defamation 2) Negligent Enablement of Identity Fraud 3) Violation of the Fair Credit Reporting Act After obtaining the judgment against your company, I will obtain a Writ of Execution from the Sheriffâ??s office in your county and I will begin the process of attaching property or funds to satisfy the judgment. For the purposes of 15 USC 1692 et seq., this Notice has the same effect as a dispute to the validity of the alleged debt and a dispute to the validity of your claims. This Notice is an attempt to correct your records, and any information received from you will be collected as evidence should any further action be necessary. This is a request for information only, and is not a statement, election, or waiver of status. Witness My Hand and Seal this 13th day of February 2001. ------------------------------------------------------------
mmm, love I don't know about this... why would you pay it if it wasn't yours. I hope you sent the "nutcase" letter. how recent is this paid collection, can you call and see if they will send UDF deleting account or moving to positive status? I don't think I would ask for money back.... but I wonder if a strategy like this could work....mmmm doesn't paying a creditor remove obligation to validate? I don't know if estoppel will work but then again, how could it hurt since it is already paid?
It was supposed to be paid by the nutcase that totalled my car therefore causing the medical bill. But then again, when my atty was supposed to be gathering all my bills so that he could calculate what he should ask for in the settlement, this one was not included. I think its really his fault. I haven't yet but I will. Accident was in early 2000; CA account appeared in January. Already argued on the phone with one of their reps, she said they can only report it as paid, So far they have not even done that. I paid it out of duress, as I stated in my validation letter to them. If they cannot prove that I am responsible for the debt, they why should I pay? The nucklehead that hit me should have wrote that check. They said they billed insurance but got no response. Don't think so, at least have not seem anything in the FDCPA that inplies that.
Okay, I see. can you get attorney to send letter on your behalf.... betcha that would get their attention. I agree if it was paid under duress that you could request money back.... how far are you willing to go on this.
Your atty. has some liablility in this if when paying all the bills he neglected to include this. I suggest you call him and advise him he needs to get ahold of the ca and explain what happened and ask them to delete this.
I called my atty. He advised me to send him a copy of the bill. I called the CA, as I do not have a copy of the bill. The CA rep said that she would sent it to me with all the medical codes via mail. There went my validation....
Hi Love, You should remove the "witness my hand and seal..." line from this letter. This verbiage is used in notary statements. This is where a notary signs and seals a document.