Here is the situation: i sent a validation letter to a CA on 01-28-02. It was signed for on 01-30-02 with no response. The original creditor is the one reporting on my credit file, not the CA. Since no response from the CA, I sent a CRRR letter to the original creditor on 2-08-02, signed for on 02-11-02. After still no response, I faxed a copy of the dispute on 03-6-02. On 03-09-02, I received a response asking for 3 notarized signatures, copy of drivers license and social security card and that this account would be investigated as a fraud. I did not dispute this account as a fraud and sent them a letter on 03-20-02 refusing to provide this information and giving them 15 days to send me proof. It is coming up on the 15th day and, at this point, I want to file suit. My question is, should I file against the CA, the original creditor or both? Since the first dispute letter I have heard nothing from the CA, just the original creditor.
This sounds exactly like what Gulf State/OSI tried to pull with me. I then called their compliance (legal) dep't and told him it is evident you have no proof so before I file a lawsuit, how are you going to remedy this? They immediately deleted it and sent me a letter of confirmation and stated also they closed their books on the acct.
Hold up there. I misread this and thought you were dealing with a ca. The original creditor is NOT liable under the FDCPA. They may be liable under the FCRA if they are reporting it incorrectly. They may be liable under section 623 of the FCRA. Here it is: § 623. Responsibilities of furnishers of information to consumer reporting agencies [15 U.S.C. § 1681s-2] (a) Duty of furnishers of information to provide accurate information. (1) Prohibition. (A) Reporting information with actual knowledge of errors. A person shall not furnish any information relating to a consumer to any consumer reporting agency if the person knows or consciously avoids knowing that the information is inaccurate. (B) Reporting information after notice and confirmation of errors. A person shall not furnish information relating to a consumer to any consumer reporting agency if (i) the person has been notified by the consumer, at the address specified by the person for such notices, that specific information is inaccurate; and (ii) the information is, in fact, inaccurate. (C) No address requirement. A person who clearly and conspicuously specifies to the consumer an address for notices referred to in subparagraph (B) shall not be subject to subparagraph (A); however, nothing in subparagraph (B) shall require a person to specify such an address. (2) Duty to correct and update information. A person who (A) regularly and in the ordinary course of business furnishes information to one or more consumer reporting agencies about the person's transactions or experiences with any consumer; and (B) has furnished to a consumer reporting agency information that the person determines is not complete or accurate, shall promptly notify the consumer reporting agency of that determination and provide to the agency any corrections to that information, or any additional information, that is necessary to make the information provided by the person to the agency complete and accurate, and shall not thereafter furnish to the agency any of the information that remains not complete or accurate. (3) Duty to provide notice of dispute. If the completeness or accuracy of any information furnished by any person to any consumer reporting agency is disputed to such person by a consumer, the person may not furnish the information to any consumer reporting agency without notice that such information is disputed by the consumer. (4) Duty to provide notice of closed accounts. A person who regularly and in the ordinary course of business furnishes information to a consumer reporting agency regarding a consumer who has a credit account with that person shall notify the agency of the voluntary closure of the account by the consumer, in information regularly furnished for the period in which the account is closed. (5) Duty to provide notice of delinquency of accounts. A person who furnishes information to a consumer reporting agency regarding a delinquent account being placed for collection, charged to profit or loss, or subjected to any similar action shall, not later than 90 days after furnishing the information, notify the agency of the month and year of the commencement of the delinquency that immediately preceded the action. (b) Duties of furnishers of information upon notice of dispute. (1) In general. After receiving notice pursuant to section 611(a)(2) [§ 1681i] of a dispute with regard to the completeness or accuracy of any information provided by a person to a consumer reporting agency, the person shall (A) conduct an investigation with respect to the disputed information; (B) review all relevant information provided by the consumer reporting agency pursuant to section 611(a)(2) [§ 1681i]; (C) report the results of the investigation to the consumer reporting agency; and (D) if the investigation finds that the information is incomplete or inaccurate, report those results to all other consumer reporting agencies to which the person furnished the information and that compile and maintain files on consumers on a nationwide basis. (2) Deadline. A person shall complete all investigations, reviews, and reports required under paragraph (1) regarding information provided by the person to a consumer reporting agency, before the expiration of the period under section 611(a)(1) [§ 1681i] within which the consumer reporting agency is required to complete actions required by that section regarding that information. (c) Limitation on liability. Sections 616 and 617 [§§ 1681n and 1681o] do not apply to any failure to comply with subsection (a), except as provided in section 621(c)(1)(B) [§ 1681s]. (d) Limitation on enforcement. Subsection (a) shall be enforced exclusively under section 621 [§ 1681s] by the Federal agencies and officials and the State officials identified in that section
I assume the original creditor has the account but I also got a letter from the collection agency as well. This is what started this whole process. At this point, the original creditor is reporting but the collection agency is attempting to collect the debt for them. Make sense? My original question was, since I have received a reply back from the original creditor, and nothing from the CA, who would I sue?
Good question. At this point, I think maybe you need to send the Lizardking original creditor validation letter. Do a search, it is a recent post. Also, if the original creditor is reporting info, it is your right to know what proof they have. Send the letter with a separate note that this is the last time you will request the info that you have a legal right to. Let them know, if they don't send you anything within 15 days, then you will file suit for them violating the FCRA by reporting erroneous info they cannot prove. For the ca, if you sent the validation and they haven't responded, that is ok as long as they don't continue collection activity. Since they aren't reporting it, as long as they aren't contacting you, I would let that go for now.
Thanks, LKH, I appreciate the guidance. Just curious, though. Even though this is the original creditor, can monetary damages still be sought or is that just for collection agencies? If so, what violations would apply?
Look at the post above regarding section 623 of the FCRA. They would be liable for any violation they have committed. I believe sections 616 and 617 of the FCRA deal with noncompliance of the FCRA. Here is the link to the FCRA. http://www.ftc.gov/os/statutes/fcra.htm
I'm sorry, LKH, to appear like I don't have a brain in my head. It's just so frustrating sometimes and, well, you know.....Thanks again for the help.