I filed suit, need help again :)

Discussion in 'Credit Talk' started by tonyastime, May 28, 2002.

  1. tonyastime

    tonyastime Well-Known Member

    I have asked this question before but....
    I have diputed an account for the last 6months as not mine. The only account on my credit report that is negative. The original creditor would not did not add to the files "account in dispute" until I faxed an intent to sue. They changed r1 to r9 and charge off remains. I will be asking for $2500 per every time they verified with out the notation. Every thirty days I disputed they verified each time but never put "consumer disputes". I have RR with dates from feb 2001 and april. Can I sue on this alone. It is not my account. But they say it is. On the web site "credit info Center" it says for this violation the fine is 2500. where does the 1000 per violation people are talking about coem in to play. Help please. I need to get the FCRA laws in order to present to the judge (small claims) thanks much!!!!
     
  2. lbrown59

    lbrown59 Well-Known Member

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  3. tonyastime

    tonyastime Well-Known Member

    Never thougth the judge might be a pig. Something to think about but food fro thought. Hope that I have a judge that respects his position. I know there are judges like that in the state that I am in. I will file and appeal though if it is not ruled in my favor and will ask the judge how came to his ruling in detail. The law clearly states the OC violated FCRA laws. Clearly they added "consumer dipsutes" when they got good and ready
     
  4. uniondiva

    uniondiva Well-Known Member

    I have not seen anything in the fcra regarding the 2500 you are talking about.
     
  5. tonyastime

    tonyastime Well-Known Member

    Union, go to creditinfo.com there is a section on "turn the tables on creditors, collectors and credit bureas." I had not heard of the 2500 fine but this writer says this is the fine.
     
  6. DanceRat

    DanceRat Well-Known Member

    I think what you are looking for is here:
    http://www.credit-and-collections.com/article-col-polk.html

    Disputes with the Source. An individual can report an inaccuracy on his report directly to the source of the item. Once an individual has disputed an item to the source, the source may not then report the item to a CRA without including notice of the individual's dispute as is stated in Section 623(a)(3). If the inaccuracy is confirmed, the source may not then continue to report the item to CRAs. Section 623(a)(1).

    and the 2500.00 is here

    Knowing, Pattern or Practice. Should the FTC find that the violation was knowing, and part of a pattern of violations or practice of violations by the defendant, the defendant may be fined up to $2,500 per violation. See Section 621(a)(2)(A).

    But this can't be fined by you - this is by the FTC - you are looking for this -

    Any failure to comply with the terms of the FCRA can result in either federal or state actions (or both) under Section 621(c). This is true for information sources, information users and CRAs alike. Violations of the FCRA also make ripe ground for private lawsuits and class actions.


    Negligent Noncompliance. Under Section 617, if the FTC finds â??negligent noncomplianceâ? with the requirements of the FCRA, a violator will be responsible to the injured party for any actual damages suffered by that individual. The violator will also be charged the individual's attorneys' fees for the cost of bringing the suit against the violator.

    Willful Noncompliance. If the violations are found to be in willful noncompliance of the FCRA under Section 616(a)(1)(A), the violator will be penalized the amount of the individual's actual damages or a fine ranging from $100 to $1,000 per violation-- whichever amount is greater. Section 616(2) allows the court to assess punitive damages against the violator, and Section 616(3) allows for the assessment of the individual's attorneys' fees as well.

    State Laws. Under Section 621(c)(1)(B)(iii), a defendant sued for an FCRA violation under state law may be fined up to $1,000 for each willful or negligent violation. These fines are in addition to the federal penalties.

    Knowing, Pattern or Practice. Should the FTC find that the violation was knowing, and part of a pattern of violations or practice of violations by the defendant, the defendant may be fined up to $2,500 per violation. See Section 621(a)(2)(A).

    False Pretenses. Obtaining a credit report under false pretenses or knowingly without a permissible purpose exposes the violator to the greater of the actual damages or a $1,000 fine under Section 616(a)(1)(B). Punitive damages and attorneys' fees are also allowed in this instance. Under Section 616(b), the violator will additionally be liable to the CRA (not just the individual) for the greater amount of actual damages or a fine of $1,000 per violation. Again, punitive damages and the opposing party's attorneys' fees may be added to this amount.

    Criminal Prosecution. Under Section 619 of the FCRA, anyone who obtains an individual's credit report under false pretenses may face criminal prosecution under Title 18 of the United States Code. The convicted defendant may face a fine or up to two years imprisonment, or both.

    Prosecution of CRA Employees. Under Section 620, any officer or employee of a CRA who knowingly or willfully provides an individual's credit information to a person not authorized to obtain that information may be prosecuted and also face up to two years in prison or a fine or both penalties.

    Deceptive Trade Practices Act. According to Section 621(a)(1), any violation of the FCRA is considered to be an unfair or deceptive trade practice in commerce and in violation of Section 5(a) of the Federal Trade Commission Act [15 U.S.C. §45(a)].

    Hope that helps~
     
  7. tonyastime

    tonyastime Well-Known Member

    actually this help. They were wilful as they only put on the "Consumer disputes" when I sent in intent to sue notification. They were wilful in their refusing to report as they had four-five months to do so. So I will take this info and go through it with other info with a fine tooth comb.
    thanks
     
  8. tmitchell

    tmitchell Well-Known Member

    Are you suing the OC becasue they failed to put "in dispute by consumer" when you disputed with CRA?
     
  9. Butch

    Butch Well-Known Member

    Dear Tonya,

    If the consumer sues the CA it's subject to a $1,000 fine, max. per violation.

    The $2,500 is if the state or the gov't sues them.

    At the header of the table you're talking about it says who can YOU sue and what can YOU sue for:

    They are wrong.

    Hope that helps.
     
  10. tonyastime

    tonyastime Well-Known Member

    yes I am suing the OC because they refuse to add "consumer disputes notation even though I have disputed the account with them dorectly. They verified four times with out adding the notation.
     
  11. tonyastime

    tonyastime Well-Known Member

    I think I've got it straight, the firn of 2500 will goto the government but I can sue for damamges Ithink up to 100 per violationor each time they cerified with out adding the consumer disputes notation. about 4000 thousand dollars,
     
  12. BiznoteGuy

    BiznoteGuy Well-Known Member

    I actually got a notice, for some unknown reason, from Experian stating, "California consumers have a right to bring an action for civil penalty of up to twenty-five hundred dollars against any person who knowingly and willfully obtains access to a file or obtains data from a file for a purpose not permitted by law, or who uses the data in a manner contrary to an agreement with the consumer reporting agency..."

    Although this statute mainly deals with inquiries, maybe you can see what your State civil code says about it.

    FYI, for those in California, the Civil Codes dealing with the above are 1785, 1785.15, 1785.19 and 1785.19.5
     
  13. tonyastime

    tonyastime Well-Known Member

    cool! I certainly will check this out! I will check my state codes.
     
  14. LKH

    LKH Well-Known Member

    I'm curious if you applied for any credit during the time you were disputing this?
     
  15. tonyastime

    tonyastime Well-Known Member

    yes. about four credit cards. two of which said no because of the charge off. ( no "consumer diputes"
    was on the CR at the time
     
  16. LKH

    LKH Well-Known Member

    I was hoping you would say that, cause without that you would have had a tough time showing how you were damaged.
     
  17. tonyastime

    tonyastime Well-Known Member

    hey also sears and target turn me down for credit increases this dispte my scores (660-750).
     

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