Wash Post-story makes me ill

Discussion in 'Credit Talk' started by Dani, Jul 7, 2002.

  1. Dani

    Dani Well-Known Member

    This story was on the front page of the Wash. Post this morning. Personally, it disgusts me - our wonderful government and dependable, reliable, fair to everyone credit card companies. Another "you itch my back and I will itch yours". My fav - the last paragraph...after reading about Mr. Moran's debt load - several chargeoffs and almost foreclosed home. Bah humbug.

    Sorry for the long article, but I found it pretty interesting reading. ;)

    Dani



    www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33671-2002Jul6.html
     
  2. Dani

    Dani Well-Known Member

    Delete - I posted the same thing twice (so ignore this post). Sorry.

    Dani
     
  3. GEORGE

    GEORGE Well-Known Member

    THAT IS WHY I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET MY CREDIT LIMIT RAISED IN 6 YEARS!!!

    ...AND I AM A 10+ YEARS CUSTOMER!!!

    ...NEVER LATE/NEVER OVER-LIMIT!!!
     
  4. Quixote

    Quixote Well-Known Member

    Sorry for straying so far from the topic, but I just had a revelation. I don't know why I never saw it before. It's been STARING me right in the FACE!!! It's so obvious. Don't you see?? If Psychdoc is really pbm (or Robin Masters!), then surely GEORGE is CAPITAL ONE!!!
     
  5. DemPooches

    DemPooches Well-Known Member

    Dani,

    Thanks very much for posting this.

    The last 4 paragraphs sum up the whole story rather nicely. What a hypocrite!!!

    (Everyone who is declined from MBNA ought to mail a copy of this article back with their reconsideration request.)

    DemPooches
     
  6. smogtek

    smogtek Well-Known Member

    What an interesting and stomach-churning read.

    This country's politicians sicken me.

    Do you think I'll EVER offer so much as a dime to the CAs on my CR?

    NOT A CHANCE! Every penny will go into CRRR dispute mailings before they see any of it!
     
  7. GEORGE

    GEORGE Well-Known Member

    I think I will do just that...

    I will include a copy of the article with my letter asking WHY I can't get a CREDIT LIMIT INCREASE??? Haven't ever been late or over-limit in 10+ years...H/H INCOME $XXX,XXX...I haven't had a credit limit increase in 6+ years!!!

    "I DON'T WANT $700,000 I JUST WANT $3,400 MORE TO SHOW ME I AM A 'WANTED' CUSTOMER"
     
  8. Dani

    Dani Well-Known Member

    Unfortunately, Congressman Moran is one of many that are doing this. After reading the article I am guessing Mr. Moran's credit score is roughly 500-550, but he can get a prime mortgage for 7.25% after several chargeoffs (less than 2 years old) and a mortgage that is already behind by a couple of months. Apparently, we are not paying our Congressmen (and Congresswomen) enough to support their lifestyles. It must be hard to make do with that $130K a year (not to mention the money the lobbyists pay them...which isn't even disclosed).

    I have no ill regard for persons who enjoy a fancy lifestyle, if that is what they can comfortably afford. But, let's hold everyone to the same standards. Judging from Mr. Moran's debt, if he was an ordinary Joe, he wouldn't have even qualified for a subprime card with Providian.

    Tell me, do you think First USA is calling his house to find out when he is going to pay his $6K charged off account? I highly doubt it.

    And the government wonders why we don't hold them in such high regard. Hmmm.

    Dani
     
  9. Butch

    Butch Well-Known Member

    Only when the people lead, will the leaders follow.
     
  10. keepmine

    keepmine Well-Known Member

    I wonder if Household and FUSA sent him a 1099C?

    Talk about bought and paid for!
     
  11. EdG

    EdG Well-Known Member

    That story made me sick. MBNA gave him a mortgage, and I get denied $1800 in credit with a 630 score and no delinquencies in the past two years. His credit is worse than mine. Very pathetic...
     
  12. wajaba

    wajaba Well-Known Member

    Let's look at the bright side...

    Great story, Dani.

    On another note, and in the same tradition as PsychDoc's Trickâ?¢, DaveLV's Trickâ?¢, etc., here's wajaba's Trickâ?¢ for improving your credit and obtaining favorable terms:

    drum roll...

    Step 1: Get elected to Congress.

    That's all I have so far. Feel free to build on this and add other steps, like backing pro-business legislation, marginalizing what is likely a sizable chunk of your constituency--the possibilities are endless!

    wajaba
     
  13. LisaMc

    LisaMc Well-Known Member

    The ridiculous nature of what I am about to say does not escape me, really.

    THis happened to my secretary. I have seen it with my own eyes. She and her husband went through a debt resolution company, not CCCS, another local group made up of attorneys. They professed to get her principal lowered, negotiate how the debt would be reported, and write off anything else. They had an account with MBNA. The balance was about $8500. They were told, by the attorney, to let it go delinquent because they would have more bargaining power. THey complied. The first round of negotiations, MBNA said they would catch it up and lower the interest rate to 6.9% for 2 years. "No". Second round - MBNA agrees to catch it up, report as "paid as agreed", lower the interest to 6.9%, and INCREASE THE CREDIT LIMIT TO 15K. "No." Third round - MBNA continues to offer catch up, lower rate, paid as agreed WITH balance transfer of ALL OF HER REMAINING NON MBNA DEBT (which at this time totalled $65K in credit card debt). The stipulation was that the original $8500 go into the consolidation loan at 100% value. "No". That is where it stands now. The creditors are shooting for a payoff of 25% of the balance and a "paid as agreed." The ball is in MBNA's court now. We'll see what happens. I think they will take it. The option, CH 7 for the creditor and a big flush for MBNA.

    I am not a banker. I am, however, a CPA. It just seems to me that they are knowingly buying questionable debt to keep their receivable portfolio in tact. These people have credit scores in the low 500's now. This is not sound lending. It would be interesting to see what % of their total receivables are really collectable. It would not surprise me a bit if MBNA bites the dust due to shoddy underwriting in the coming years.
     
  14. Rina

    Rina Well-Known Member

    Dani,

    I'm reading this and my heart keeps sinking, like it'll never hit bottom. I don't know whether to cry or shrug it off & say, whatever.

    Thanks for the story; everybody in my address book will get it.
     
  15. Butch

    Butch Well-Known Member

    Dear Rina,

    Shrug it off and say whatever. This is merely business as usual. Lets worry about us not these jacka$$as.

    :)~
     
  16. bhargavap

    bhargavap Well-Known Member

    Is it worth contacting our state reps to state our discontent with the obvious double standard

    And ask the obvious question of is this the type of behavior that they condone and if so, to please let us know, so we can elect representatives that dont condone this corporate favortism
     
  17. Dani

    Dani Well-Known Member

    I have to respectfully disagree, Butch. :)
    By shrugging off the behavior, means that it is okay for our representatives to do this...it is not and we need to take a stand.

    You made a great quote the other day when you stated that when the American people lead, the leaders will follow. This is true.

    If we sweep "the bad stuff" under the rug, this will continue to occur...Enron, Worldcom, Kmart, Moran, etc. We allow it to happen. Where is our outrage?

    We need to take back control of our country. Middle America is getting screwed.

    Dani
     
  18. wajaba

    wajaba Well-Known Member

    What Dani said.
     
  19. Butch

    Butch Well-Known Member

    Absolutely! But you only listed two alternatives, shrug or cry. I just didn't wanna see you cry.

    :)
     
  20. smogtek

    smogtek Well-Known Member

    Someone put it very eloquently:

    "All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing".

    -Edmund Burke, British Statesman, 1729-1767
     

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