PLEASE LOOK mortgage info

Discussion in 'Credit Talk' started by ohnostuck, Sep 4, 2002.

  1. ohnostuck

    ohnostuck Well-Known Member

    anyone care to look at this? I see there are negative discount points. What would this mean?


    Estimated Funding Date: 10/04/2002
    First Payment Date: 12/01/2002
    Loan Amount: $142,500
    Loan Type: Conforming 30 Year Fixed
    Estimated Property Value: $150,000
    Interest Rate: 7.250%
    Discount Points: -3.000%
    Rate Lock Status: Not Locked
    Lock Expiration Date: Not Locked
    Principal and Interest Payment: $972.10
     
  2. GEORGE

    GEORGE Well-Known Member

    EXACTLY WHAT IT MEANS----> (-$4,275)---->(subtracted from closing costs)
     
  3. karak

    karak Well-Known Member

    why is your interest rate so high?
     
  4. Why Chat

    Why Chat Well-Known Member

    I have seen negative points before on mortgages with HEAVY pre-payment penalties--better check.
     
  5. mephisto

    mephisto Well-Known Member

    Negative points are points that your lender pays you to pay your closing cost; i.e. title fees, appraisal, etc. In return for negative points you'll pay a higher interest rate.

    In this case case you'd get approx $4200 back. BUT: Normally you don't actually get cash back after your closing costs have been paid. Your actual closing cost should be much less than 4200, meaning you'll not reap the benfit from it.

    Ask your lender for an offer with less negative origination points and in return a better rate. I'd think that about 1.5 negative points is all you need to pay for closing.

    Mike
     
  6. dimitri

    dimitri Well-Known Member

    Negative discount normally refers to yield spread premium. This is the amount the bank will pay your mortgage broker for selling you a 7.25% rate. This is not money from your pocket upfront, however, you are paying this money for the next 30 years plus interest. There is nothing wrong with a broker making money, however, you know if they earned 3 points or not. I would ask for some other options concerning the rate and points, 7.25 is a little high right now for a 30 year conventional loan. I am a mortgage banker myself and the average rate that I have been seeing these days on a 30 yr loan is about 6.25 - 6.5%. Are they charging you any origination fee or junk fees( processing fee, application fee, administrative fee, etc)?
     
  7. ohnostuck

    ohnostuck Well-Known Member

    Hi all. I am only putting 5 percent down and that is about ALL I have to put down. Let me get the fees that I was shown. I will get back to you in just a second.
     
  8. ohnostuck

    ohnostuck Well-Known Member

    I think aol ate my email. I am still looking...sorry
     
  9. dimitri

    dimitri Well-Known Member

    Considering that the lender maybe paying your closings cost, then these negative points are most likely being applied to your costs. Regardless, you should have a good faith estimate from them breaking down your closing costs.
     
  10. GEORGE

    GEORGE Well-Known Member

    6.000% with 0 points would be a better deal...WOULDN'T IT???

    Somehow it looks like your going to get the SHORT END OF THE STICK...
     
  11. ohnostuck

    ohnostuck Well-Known Member

    Hi there,

    The loan officer just emailed me the rate info today because I was getting antsy. I am still looking for the dang email. I swear AOL has eaten it!!!
     
  12. ohnostuck

    ohnostuck Well-Known Member

    Well by golly George it would! LOL.
     
  13. GEORGE

    GEORGE Well-Known Member

    ......
     
  14. charlieslex

    charlieslex Well-Known Member

    ohnostuck, What happened to the USDA loan? Charlie
     
  15. ohnostuck

    ohnostuck Well-Known Member

    I THOUGHT that everything was going good. They as of Sept 1st decided I am no longer in a rural area. 20,081 population. Limit is 20,000
     
  16. charlieslex

    charlieslex Well-Known Member

    Well that's crap!! I guess that it was too good to be true. Charlie
     

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