CRA is a CA and CA a CRA

Discussion in 'Credit Talk' started by enigma, Oct 31, 2002.

  1. enigma

    enigma Well-Known Member

    I read in an earlier post that a CRA cannot be a CA and a CA cannot be a CRA at the same time.

    Is this true? I cannot not find it any where. I would really like to know. I have a sumbag ca saying they are a cra too.
     
  2. charlieslex

    charlieslex Well-Known Member

    I don't think that can happen. I don't know of any laws that say they can't be both. RMA is an affiliate of EQ, but they are different corps. What CA is telling you that they are a CRA? Charlie
     
  3. Butch

    Butch Well-Known Member

    Oh sure they can. Normally a CRA gets into the collection business for "extra money".

    But if they say they are both, they better be both.

    :)
     
  4. enigma

    enigma Well-Known Member

    It's a collection agency called Check Care System. On their letter head they say said they are both a CRA & CA.

    They are a bad check collection agency. They pissed me off. Tried to collect fees not permitted by law and several others.

    I am thinking about sending a demand letter for violations.
     
  5. DJReverb

    DJReverb Well-Known Member

    Several good examples of how a ca can be a cra and vise versa...

    Chexsystems
    Telecheck
    Cetergy (Equifax Check Systems)
    Equifax
    CSC
    Retail Merchants Assoc. (Lubbock, TX)
    Etc...

    They can be both, and places like Chexsystems tend to never follow the rules so good luck.. Keep up the fight!
     
  6. charlieslex

    charlieslex Well-Known Member

    You're right Butch. I know someone that has an EQ collection, but it's a business collection. I haven't heard of anyone with a personal. Charlie
     
  7. enigma

    enigma Well-Known Member

    I've sent a letter requesting my file. So far, 3 weeks later no response.

    They are about 25 miles from my home, maybe I'll go pay them a visit.
     
  8. charlieslex

    charlieslex Well-Known Member

    Would you match your list with the CRA's that they are affiliated with: Chexsystems, Telecheck, Retail Merchant's.
     
  9. charlieslex

    charlieslex Well-Known Member

    My initial answer was based on 3 CRA's, EQ, TU, and EX. CSC is a corporation that is an affiliate to EQ. I have never heard of Cetergy, but it may also be an affiliate. I have only heard of a business having an EQ collection. I have had a Risk Mgmt Ass collection, but that is a CA affiliate of EQ. They are not EQ. Unless there is a new CRA, Check Care Systems is not a CRA they are a CA. They may be an affiliate under a CRA's corporate umbrella, but they are not a CRA. Charlie
     
  10. charlieslex

    charlieslex Well-Known Member

    Butch, Can you give an example? I may be wrong on this, but a CRA is covered by the FCRA. A CA is covered by the FCRA and the FDCPA. There is noway that Congress would let a CA and CRA comingle. The instance that I gave was for a business and they aren't covered by the FDCPA, so that's why EQ can be a business collection because they aren't covered. Does that sound right to you? Where is Sassy when you need her.? :) Charlie
     
  11. enigma

    enigma Well-Known Member

    The letterhead states that they are both a CRA and CA.

    From Check Care website, www.checkcare.com

    Checkcare is a full service check verification, check guarantee and check recovery solution. Our state-of-the-art verification system tracks check writing frequency which enables us to recognize potential fraudulent activity in seconds. Programs can be tailored to verify checks using either a local or national database of check writers who have outstanding bad checks. Guarantee programs available for businesses unable to verify checks at point-of-sale.
    Checkcare offers a variety of check verification, guarantee and recovery programs to suit your particular business needs. Whatever your business requires, Checkcare has a check protection solution for you.
    Our verification programs provide the latest technology available in verification services. You can choose verification programs that access local area or national check databases and we will customize a program based on your needs. Our programs integrate with multiple point-of-sale platforms and in most cases can be used with existing terminals and checkreaders you may already have.
    Our check recovery services are available at little or no cost and eliminate the high cost associated with internal collections. Checkcare has the collection resources of a large corporation with the responsiveness of a local company.
    Checkcare has a program that is right for your business. Your convenience and satisfation are guaranteed.

    Corporate Checkcare

    The Checkcare Mission

    To Provide A Full Service Check Guarantee, Verification And Recovery Solution That Exceeds Our Client's Expectations And Rewards Our Strategic Partners By Enhancing The Value Of The Checkcare Brand.



    Checkcare Enterprises, the franchisor of Checkcare Systems, is located in Columbus, Georgia. Checkcare was founded in 1982 and now has a network of over 40 franchises nationwide. Unquestionably, this rapid rate of growth underscores the soundness of the Checkcare concept. Checkcare Enterprises anticipates continued expansion and will ultimately blanket the United States.
    Along the way we have earned the respect of over 40,000 businesses while developing a sterling reputation for customer service and industry leadership. As the number of local offices increased, we ensured a corresponding increase in support personnel, sales and training material, and computer capacity.
    Checkcare's effectiveness is due in part to state-of-the-art data processing and a customized recovery system - the nucleus of our operation. This capability enables Checkcare's local offices to collect unsurpassed percentages of all qualified checks.
     

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