Screwed while at BootCamp

Discussion in 'Credit Talk' started by pibb26, Nov 22, 2002.

  1. pibb26

    pibb26 Well-Known Member

    I went away to Marine Corps Bootcamp and other training for 7 months. Prior to shipping out I sent letters to all my credit card companies for the soldiers and sailors civil relief. I called all the companies and asked where to send the letters...they ALL had a dept dealing with that issue.
    I have come to find out that they all defaulted while I was unable to send or receive mail. They are all now charged off. Do I have any rights? I tried to do the right thing by sending the letters obviously to no avail. Any info on this would be greatly appreciated.
    Should I send out disputes during CHOD to see if I can get them removed?
     
  2. hmongster

    hmongster Well-Known Member

    Doesn't the armed forces provide free legal counsel?
    Do you have proof that you mailed these letters to your creditors and/or received responses?
    If you dispute with the CRA's what is the basis of your dispute going to be? Have you tried contacting your creditors and asking "what's up?"

    You need to provide a lot more info before anyone can help you.
     
  3. lbrown59

    lbrown59 Well-Known Member

    You sure got booted here.


    You need to kick some A
     
  4. rblues

    rblues Well-Known Member

    I agree...please provide a little more information.

    First, did you send the letters certified return receipt requested? Do you have proof that they recieved them?

    Second, you should call the creditors and ask why this happened.

    Third, go to the legal office and ask counsel what you can do. Since this falls under the S&S relief act, I would definitely contact them.
     
  5. pibb26

    pibb26 Well-Known Member

    They did not tell me to send them CRRR, so at the time I did not. Did not know better then. I have copies of the letters, dates sent but no proof...
    I have spoken to the creditors and they told me to contact whoever holds the collection account...since it is charged off they did not care what I had to say since they are not responsible for the accounts anymore.
    The military does provide legal council, just did not even think of it or want to go there....
    You would think that there would have been a notation in their computers that I called requesting the addresses...but no...
    I have no idea how I would dispute it...but I am sure there is a way. People seem to get legit stuff removed all the time...
    Just frustrated...tried to do the right thing and got jerked around anyway.
     
  6. gracie

    gracie Well-Known Member

    You need to let your chain of command know exactly what happened, and do it before they find out themselves. Creditors have ways of getting to your Commanding Officer's Desk....I saw many people get in pretty bad trouble for defaulting on loans and credit cards when I was in the military. They should inform you what to do, and assist you to get things straightened out.
     
  7. Butch

    Butch Well-Known Member

    Gracie is right on. Go straight to your JAG office first thing Monday. They will spend whatever time necessary with you. And then GET PROOF that you were there trying to straighten this out.

    Thet fact that you tried to "do the right thing" is of no consequence in the Post Clinton business world.

    You now have to PROVE you tried to do the right thing.

    They didn't tell you to send your notices via CRRR for a reason.

    :(
     
  8. rblues

    rblues Well-Known Member

    I agree with Gracie and Butch. You need to put an end to this. Why wouldn't you want to go see the Military Legal Office? They are on your side. If you can show them the letters and tell them what is going on, they will be able to help you.

    Be responsible and go on Monday!
     
  9. Erica

    Erica Well-Known Member

    I'll be gone for about 6 months to Basic Training and AIT....I'm going to write checks out in advance and stamp my envelopes. I have family that can mail them out on a regular basis so that the bills aren't late. I will also call and send letters to the creditors so they know if they don't get a payment, I'm otherwise indesposed.

    Thanks for posting this so that I can get started on that now. I now know that they will try to be sneaky.

    Good luck, and tell us how it worked out for you....:D
     
  10. shaolin76

    shaolin76 Well-Known Member

    What service are going into erica? since you said ait im guessing army... if your non combat most mos's aits are pretty relaxed and you could mail them youself after basic... btw what mos are you ?
     
  11. whyspers

    whyspers Well-Known Member

    I guess I just don't understand the Soldiers and Sailors Relief Act very well. My ex used to be a Marine Corp recruiter and he would tell poolees to have a family member or someone take care of their bills while they were away, or to prepay them. I never heard of using the SSRA for recruit training but like I said...I don't know much about it.

    Sorry I can't give you any input.


    L
     
  12. Erica

    Erica Well-Known Member

    I'm ARMY reserves, MOS is 38A (translation Civil Affairs). It's a non combat position, you are right, but I still can't take care of my bills in Basic. SO like I said, I'm just going to write checks out in advance and let my family mail them:D

    The other thing I can do is to schedule payments online with my bank so they automatically get paid:D
     
  13. Marie

    Marie Well-Known Member

    My brother used leave my parents envelopes and on them in big letters they'd say

    Mail on Jan 1, 2001
    Mail on Feb 15, 2001

    so that he never screwed up anything while he was in training. I think he only had a few bills, so it was pretty easy.
     
  14. gib

    gib Well-Known Member

    It does say it covers "inductees".

    Gib
     
  15. charlieslex

    charlieslex Well-Known Member

    Democrat, I presume! I'm neither, probably Demo myself since Nadar can't do anything. Charlie
     
  16. G. Fisher

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  17. Hermit5

    Hermit5 Well-Known Member

    Can you set up auto deduct with the creditors or auto pay with the bank?
     
  18. PsychDoc

    PsychDoc Well-Known Member

    Pibb, it sounds ilke you completely misunderstood the Soldiers and Sailors Relief Act (SSRA). That law doesn't excuse you from making your regular monthly payments. All it does is force your creditors to lower your APRs to 6% (including your mortgage, if you have one above that rate). This includes all consumer debt, including credit cards of course, which can amount to a substantial savings if you've got subprime cards at higher rates. Unfortunately, it sounds like you thought that all you would have to do is write your creditors and tell them about boot camp and that you wouldn't have to make any payments at all. Although a law like that would certainly help many people, that's not what's on the books unfortunately. Your debts were all charged off because that's obviously what often happens if you don't make your payments for such a lengthy period of time. To sum up, you weren't screwed at all -- unfortunately. :( They call this board "straight talk" so I hope you'll pardon the straight talk, lol. In any event, if it was me (and I KNOW FOR A FACT that not everyone here would advocate the same tack -- which is ok! -- consider lots of opinions). Anyway, if it was me, I would negotiate full payment settlements in exchange for full erasure of the bad tradelines. In any event, you've got a cleanup problem on your hands, and I think this board will be of great assistance to you as you begin that process.

    Doc
     
  19. jrjr35

    jrjr35 Well-Known Member

    pibb. sorry to hear about your situation.
     
  20. waalien

    waalien Well-Known Member

    Yup, what Doc said.
     

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