Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 1 out of 3 French people want Iraq 1*For someone who is so HUMBLE you sure like to call people names and you are quite judgemental. 2*And for someone who seeks the "Truth" is it not true that the Islamic Militants pose more of a threat to our way of life than Fundamental Christians? islandboy ================== 1*So you noticed it too! 2*You mean like these After Troops, Terror U.S. intelligence has been picking up indications that Muslim extremists have started entering Iraq from Iran to Jordan The END ************************* LB 59
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 1 out of 3 French people want Iraq lbrown, 1) for someone who just spent several posts calling people AHs, SOBs, etc. maybe you should rethink this particular argument. 2)Yes, many muslims hate americans. Most muslims could care less about Americans. What does this have to do with being afraid of Muslims? Who kills more americans, other selfish and hateful americans or muslim extremists? I have been all over the world and the one thing that i can guarantee you is that selfish people in any country are just as evil as any other country. Kind people in the middle east or just as kind as kind people in America, China, Europe, etc. Again, i ask you what your solution is to rid the world of those "evil and fearful muslim extremists" Should we kill every muslim in the middle east to make sure we get the 1% that are evil? What about those in Europe and America? How about the evil people who aren't muslim? How do we prevent the Hilters, Timothy McVeighs, Stalins, Maos, or gun-toting grade school kids of the world from killing innocent people in non-Muslim countries? I'm asking you to answer this question. Tell me the solution to preventing violence, crime, selfishness, and evil.
Re: Re: Re: Re: 1 out of 3 French people want Iraq "yikes. . . believe it or not. your beliefs ARE the minority. . ." Yeah, when you place the Lord on the shelf, you find yourself swimming in the ocean by yourself after He lifts his hand and quietly leaves at your request. Oh yeah. My understanding of how God works, and how the Holy Spirit works these days are COMPLETELY in the minority. I find that not many people agree with me.
Re: Re: Here we go... I dunno. I plead ignorance in regard to Islam. That's why I didn't mention anything about it. I don't know what the religion is all about. And besides, your comment is a smoke screen- you fail to make an argument or identify an issue.
Re: Re: Here we go... Subject: Article from a Romanian Newspaper We rarely get a chance to see another country's editorial about the USA. This Romanian writer really identified key elements in who we Americans are... Read this excerpt from a Romanian Newspaper. The article was written by Mr. Cornel Nistorescu and published under the title "C"ntarea Americii meaning "Ode To America," on September 24, 2002 in the Romanian newspaper Evenimentul zilei ("The Daily Event" or "News of the Day"). ~An Ode to America~ Why are Americans so united? They would not resemble one another even if you painted them all one color! They speak all the languages of the world and form an astonishing mixture of civilizations and religious beliefs. Still, the American tragedy turned three hundred million people into a hand put on the heart. Nobody rushed to accuse the White House, the army, and the secret services that they are only a bunch of losers. Nobody rushed to empty their bank accounts. Nobody rushed out onto the streets nearby to gape about. The Americans volunteered to donate blood and to give a helping hand. After the first moments of panic, they raised their flag over the smoking ruins, putting on T-shirts, caps and ties in the colors of the national flag. They placed flags on buildings and cars as if in every place and on every car a government official or the president was passing. On every occasion, they started singing their traditional song: "God Bless America!" I watched the live broadcast and rerun after rerun for hours listening to the story of the guy who went down one hundred floors with a woman in a wheelchair without knowing who she was, or of the Californian hockey player, who gave his life fighting with the terrorists and prevented the plane from hitting a target that could have killed other hundreds or thousands of people. How on earth were they able to respond united as one human being? Imperceptibly, with every word and musical note, the memory of some turned into a modern myth of tragic heroes. And with every phone call, millions and millions of dollars were put in a collection aimed at rewarding not a man or a family, but a spirit, which no money can buy. What on earth can unite the Americans in such a way? Their land? Their galloping history? Their economic Power? Money? I tried for hours to find an answer, humming songs and murmuring phrases with the risk of sounding commonplace. I thought things over, but I reached only one conclusion... Only freedom can work such miracles. MAY GOD CONTINUE TO BLESS AMERICA
Fw: Fw: Christianity vs. Islam > This quote is from an interview with Attorney General John Ashcroft by > Cal Thomas: > > " People are always asking me (Cal Thomas) if there are good leaders in > Washington. There are. There are quite a few, but you don't often hear > about them because many of them aren't engaging in scandalous or > self-serving activities. One such good person is Attorney General John > Ashcroft. I had the pleasure of interviewing him again this week for a > column I'm writing. During the interview, Ashcroft said something so > profound, I wanted to share it with you. The attorney general of the > United States said: > > "Islam is a religion in which 'a' God requires you to send your son to > die for him." > "Christianity is a faith in which God sent his Son to die for you." > > This really says it all. > >
Re: Fw: Fw: Christianity vs. Islam judgemental angrymarc here, LOL I highly doubt either John Ashcroft or you has ever even read the original books of Islamic thought. In fact, i doubt either of you two has even read the entire bible straight through. Let alone, the many different versions and interpretations that exist within and among Christian thought. Taking a quote from John Ashcroft about the difference between religions is like taking a quote from the Dalai Lama commenting on the impact of NAFTA. Again, not only do you pick any inane source to justify your fearful racist belief systems, but you pick someone who is not even considered an "expert" on religious thought or even international politics, and most Americans hadn't even heard of until a few years ago. Maybe we can get the Pope to comment on the proper security protocol for preventing terrorism in America? Again, you still haven't answered my question. I'm assuming you'd rather just kill off all muslims and be done with the whole matter, but are just too fearful to express the opinion. btw-did you know that Islam teaches that Jesus was sent to die for God and the world also???
Re: Fw: Fw: Christianity vs. Islam After Troops, Terror U.S. intelligence has been picking up indications that Muslim extremists have started entering Iraq from Iran to Jordan The END ************************* LB 59
Re: CAN YOU PASS THIS QUIZ ? Subject: Fw: ANN MARGARET STORY A very good message about a Viet Nam vet and movie star Ann Margaret which was written by the veteran's wife -- unique and well worth reading: Richard, my husband, never really talked a lot about his time in Viet Nam other than he had been shot by a sniper. However, he had a rather grainy, 8x10 black-&-white photo he had taken at a USO show of Ann Margaret with Bob Hope in the background that was one of his treasures. A few years ago, Ann Margaret was doing a book-signing at a local bookstore. Richard wanted to see if he could get her to sign the treasured photo, so he arrived at the bookstore at 12 o'clock for the 7:30 signing. When I got there after work, the line went all the way around the bookstore, circled the parking lot, and disappeared behind a parking garage. Before her appearance, bookstore employees announced that she would sign only her book and no memorabilia would be permitted. Richard was disappointed, but wanted to show her the photo and let her know how much those shows meant to lonely GI's so far from home. Ann Margaret came out looking as beautiful as ever and, as 2nd in line, it was soon Richard's turn. He presented the book for her signature and then took out the photo. When he did, there were many shouts from the employees that she would not sign it. Richard said, "I understand. I just wanted her to see it." She took one look at the photo, tears welled up in her eyes and she said, "This is one of my gentlemen from Viet Nam and I most certainly will sign his photo. I know what these men did for their country and I always have time for "my gentlemen." With that, she pulled Richard across the table and planted a big kiss on him. She then made quite a to-do about the bravery of the young men she met over the years, how much she admired them, and how much she appreciated them. There weren't too many dry eyes among those close enough to hear. She then posed for pictures and acted as if he was the only one there. Later, at dinner, Richard was very quiet. When I asked if he'd like to talk about it, my big strong husband broke down in tears. "That's the first time anyone ever thanked me for my time in the Army," he said. That night was a turning point for him. He walked a little straighter and, for the first time in years, was proud to have been a Vet.
Re: CAN YOU PASS THIS QUIZ ? They call my President a "cowboy." It used to tick me off when the Muslim detractors in the Middle East, or the socialist detractors in Europe, Hollywood and others called our President a cowboy. But the more I think about it, the more glad I am that he is. When I was a kid, cowboys were our heroes. Well, I mean the ones in the white hats, not the black hats. There was Hopalong Cassidy, Red Ryder, Gene Autry, Roy Rogers, then later Marshall Matt Dillon and others. Personally, I think Roy Rogers could beat 'em all up, and then sing a song afterward to his girlfriend (or his horse Trigger). He was my favorite. What were common attributes of these legendary cowboys? Here are a few: 1. They were never looking for trouble. 2. But when it came, they faced it with courage. 3. They were always on the side of right. 4. They defended good people against bad people. 5. They had high morals. 6. They had good manners. 7. They were honest. 8. They spoke their minds and they spoke the truth, regardless of what people thought or "political correctness," which no one had ever heard of back then. 9. They were a beacon of integrity in the wild, wild West. 10. They were respected. When they walked into a saloon (they only drank sarsaparilla), the place became quiet, and the bad guys kept their distance. 11. If they got in a gunfight, they made sure they could outdraw anyone because they did what it took to prepare for the worst. If in a fist-fight, they could beat up anyone. 12. They always won. They always got their man. In victory, they didn't stay around to take the credit and have the town give them a parade, they rode off into the sunset. Those were the days when there was such a thing as right and wrong, something blurred in our modern world, and denied by many. Those were the days when women were respected and treated as ladies, because they acted like ladies. Now as a mature adult, I still like cowboys. They represent something good -- something pure that America has been missing. Ronald Reagan was a cowboy. I like Ronald Reagan, who was brave, positive and who gave us hope. He wore a white hat. To the consternation of his liberal critics, he had the courage to call a spade a spade and call the former Soviet Union what it was -- the evil empire. Liberals hated Ronald Reagan. They also hate President Bush because he distinguishes between good and evil. He calls a spade and spade, and after 9/11 called evil "evil," without mincing any words, to the shock of the liberal establishment. That's what cowboys do, you know. President Bush also told the French to "put their cards on the table" (old West talk), which they did, exposing their cowardice and greed. The Arabs are wrong. In the old West, might did not make right. Right made right! Cowboys in white hats were always on the side of right, and that was their might. I am glad my President is a cowboy. He will get his man. Cowboys do, you know! >> The END ************************* LB 59
Re: CAN YOU PASS THIS QUIZ ? U.S. Finds Suicide Vests in Iraqi School BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - U.S. Marines searching a Baghdad school made a chilling discovery: scores of black leather vests stuffed with explosives and ball bearings, along with empty hangers hinting that suicide attackers already might be outfitted to explode somewhere in this chaotic city. More than 40 of the vests - on hangers and shrouded in plastic - lay on the floor of a classroom Saturday morning, two days after Marines discovered them in an elementary school in a middle-class neighborhood. Dozens of hangers were strewn on the ground outside the building. ``Odds are high that someone is out there wearing one,'' said Marine Lt. David Wright, 27, of Goldsboro, N.C. ``They were indeed dedicated to do something if they strapped on those vests.'' Just 150 yards away, a junior high school held hundreds of huge crates of weapons, rocket-propelled grenades, surface-to-air missiles and shoulder-launched rockets. Residents of the neighborhood said members of the paramilitary Fedayeen came in about a month ago in pickup trucks in the middle of the night. The Fedayeen fighters unloaded the weapons in the two school compounds, yards from the nearest houses. The residents said they had no idea what was being unloaded. ``We could not say, `Don't put it here, don't put it there.' We couldn't prevent it,'' said Zina Selman, 45, whose house is less than 50 yards from the school with the apparent suicide vests. The Marines discovered the weapons caches Thursday night. A reporter from The Associated Press was given a tour of them Saturday morning, as Marines continued to secure the compound to prevent residents of the middle-class neighborhood from entering. U.S. troops in Iraq have been on high alert against suicide attacks. Early in the war, a bomber posing as a taxi driver pulled up to a roadblock north of Najaf, waved to American troops for help, then blew up his vehicle up as they approached, killing four. On Thursday, four Marines and a medical corpsman were wounded when a vehicle blew up as it approached a checkpoint in Baghdad. In another sign of the threat of suicide attacks, U.S. forces Saturday stopped a bus near the Syrian border that was carrying 59 men of military age who had with them $630,000 in $100 bills and a letter offering a reward for killing American soldiers. Brig. Gen. Vincent Brooks said the men were trying to leave Iraq. He said he did not know the men's nationalities, nor who had written the letter offering rewards. The vests were found in what appeared to be a biology classroom with diagrams of cells on the walls. They looked almost professionally made, each nearly a replica of the others. Each weighed nearly 20 pounds, the black leather filled with blocks of C-4 explosive laced with ball bearings. Wires protruded from the vests. In a courtyard outside the classroom sat cardboard boxes of black detonators with two red buttons on the end and Velcro on the side, apparently so the detonator could be attached to a vest. Three boxes of dynamite and a crate marked ``explosives'' were nearby. Next to the classroom lay stacks of long plastic bags filled with reddish-brown puttylike blocks that appeared to be explosives. Some of it was sculpted onto the back of a metal bar that Marines speculated was a crude effort to make a shaped charge. Residents said the Fedayeen left the neighborhood about a week ago and lit a fire in that school. When the neighbors ran in to put the fire out they discovered the vests. ``We have children, we have families, what are we supposed to do?'' asked Farouk al Amary, 54, whose house is just across the street from the school. ``We don't want bombs.'' Selman said she left her house when the vests were discovered. But the men of the neighborhood poured sand on the vests to try to dampen potential explosions and she moved back the next day. At the junior high school, Marines slept in a courtyard just feet from hundreds of crates of ammunition. Several crates of weapons were marked ``GHQ Jordan Armed Forces, director of planning and organization, Amman, Jordan.'' For the past day, residents had brought the Marines dozens of rocket-propelled grenades, shoulder-launched rockets and even mortar systems found throughout the neighborhood. The neighbors said the Fedayeen had put the ammunition in their yards, on their roofs and in their parks. Wright said it appeared an effort to position weapons throughout the neighborhood in preparation for house-to-house fighting that never happened. Selman said she was sure here neighborhood was not unique. ``All over Baghdad,'' she said, ``there are bombs near people.'' The END ************************* LB 59
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 1 out of 3 French people want Iraq Subject: No Mystery.. > > > > Everyone seems to be wondering why Muslim terrorists are so quick to > > commit suicide. > > Let's see now... > > No beer, > > No booze, > > No bars, > > No television, > > No cheerleaders, > > No baseball, > > No football, > > No basketball, > > No hockey, > > and No tailgate parties, > > No pork BBQ, > > No hot-dogs, > > No burgers, > > No lobster, > > No shellfish, or even frozen fish sticks. > > > > Rags for clothes, towels for hats. Constant wailing from the guy > > next door because he is sick and there are no doctors. 24 hour > > wailing from a > guy > > in > > the tower. > > > > You can't shave. Your wife can't shave. You can't shower to wash off > the > > > > smell of donkey cooked over burning camel dung. > > > > The women have to wear baggy dresses, and veils at all times. Your > bride > > is > > picked by someone else. She smells just like your donkey, but your > > donkey has a better disposition. > > > > Then they tell you it all gets better when you die. > > > > NO MYSTERY HERE > > > > > >
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 1 out of 3 French people want Iraq LIKE I SAID, TIME WOUNDS ALL HEALS. http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/002/559jrrei.asp Tom Daschle's Duty to Be Morally Coherent: The Senate minority leader is ordered to stop calling himself a Catholic. by J. Bottum 04/17/2003 12:00:00 PM J. Bottum, Books & Arts editor TOM DASCHLE may no longer call himself a Catholic. The Senate minority leader and the highest ranking Democrat in Washington has been sent a letter by his home diocese of Sioux Falls, sources in South Dakota have told The Weekly Standard, directing him to remove from his congressional biography and campaign documents all references to his standing as a member of the Catholic Church. This isn't exactly excommunication--which is unnecessary, in any case, since Daschle made himself ineligible for communion almost 20 years ago with his divorce and remarriage to a Washington lobbyist. The directive from Sioux Falls' Bishop Robert Carlson is rather something less than excommunication--and, at the same time, something more: a declaration that Tom Daschle's religious identification constitutes, in technical Catholic vocabulary, a grave public scandal. He was brought up as a Catholic, and he may still be in some sort of genuine mental and spiritual relation to the Church. Who besides his confessor could say? But Daschle's consistent political opposition to Catholic teachings on moral issues--abortion, in particular--has made him such a problem for ordinary churchgoers that the Church must deny him the use of the word "Catholic."
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 1 out of 3 French people want Iraq More from MSNBC. Get this: Astonishing Comments from Chip Reid, MSNBC. An embeded reporter who covered the war and has now returned to MSN. An interview by Lester Holt ensues on 4/18/2003, 02:20. Chip: "I'm so glad to be back where we an actually take a shower. I have no idea how many weeks we were there, 2,3,4,5,6,7, who knows, we just haven't added it all up yet." Lester Holt: "From the time you left Kuwait to the time you were UN-embeded so you could return home, how long was that?" Chip: "25 days, on the nose." HEY CHIP - HOW MANY WEEKS IS 25 DAYS ??? LOL
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 1 out of 3 French people want Iraq Butch, I think Groucho Marx said that "time wounds all heels," but I see what you're getting at. Unfortunately, the Krammer family probably wouldn't agree with that quip, or with the old saying from which it was derived, for that matter. http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/3676427.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp In the inimitable, irony-impaired, Weekly Standard fashion, J. Bottum writes: "[...]Regardless of their party, public figures who aren't going to oppose abortion shouldn't call themselves Catholic anymore." Just substitute the words public figures with the word Bishops, and abortion with the sexual molestation of 10 year-old boys, and you just might have something there, Big J. wajaba
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 1 out of 3 French people want Iraq Sandstorms in Iraq What an awesome showing of God's power and protection. Read on... I am sure that all of you heard about the sandstorm in Iraq Tuesday and Wednesday (the worst in 100 years some say) and the drenching rain that followed the next day. Our troops were bogged down and couldn't move effectively. The media was already wondering if the troops were in a "quagmire" and dire predictions of gloom and doom came from the left wing media. What they didn't report was that yesterday, after the weather had cleared, the Marine group that was mired the worst looked out at the plain they were just about to cross. What did they see? Hundreds if not thousands of anti-tank and anti-personnel mines had been uncovered by the wind and then washed off by the rain. If they had proceeded as planned, many lives would have undoubtedly been lost. As it was, they simply drove around them and let the demolition teams destroy them. Praises be to His mighty name! Thank you God, for protecting our young men and women! One person once asked George Washington if he thought God was on his side. His reply is reported to be, "It is not that God should be on our side, but that we be on His." P.S. In God we trust
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 1 out of 3 French people want Iraq "It is not that God should be on our side, but that we be on His." -George Washington Do you even know what he meant by this? Did you know that most of the founding fathers were Freemasons and Deists? Do you know what their views on religion and God were? Here's a hint: Their views are alot closer to mine than yours.. . . ;-)
