Re: Re: 1 Hour left........... 1*One more thing t_sims224 you said: All that is needed is just be fair to all people and if you don't agree with them then leave them the hell alone." 2*This is one of the stupidest comments I have ever read. 3*Hitler and he took over half of Europe. 4*we didn't agree with that, should we have just let him do that? thetravele ================ 1*Like the arabs were doing when they visited New York. 2*thetravele:Out of the mouths of ieanacks comes ignorance. 3*Quite an accomplishment for a guy who was minding his own business. 4*Why not that was his business? The END ************************* LB 59
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 1 Hour left........... [* You reminded me of when I was a kid at Home. My dad had an older brother who lived next door to us for many many years. My uncle never owned a car or learned to drive in his life time and was always asking dad for a ride someplace. On the way to wherever they were going my uncle would go on about the evils of the automobile. This would really piss my old man off and I don't blame him one bit. You are just like my uncle except with you it's the blacks and the Indians. Just as my uncle irritated dad I find your comments offensive. If he felt this way about automobiles he had no right to the benefits of them. His actions spoke louder than his words. like my Uncle your actions of accepting the benefits of this place as you disrespectfully call it is speaking much louder than your words. The END ************************* LB 59 QUOTE]Originally posted by t_sims224 process "If you truly feel this way about this the proper thing for you to do then is to move onto one of the Indian Reservations or over to one of Africa's poor black countries and live out the rest of your life there.To live here reaping and enjoying the benefits of the sacrifices of our forefathers while at the same time condemning their actions is being two faced and talking out of both sides of your mouth. " . [/QUOTE]
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 1 Hour left........... 1 cra shows only a suit, jason_l Why is this even reportable?? The END ************************* LB 59
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 1 Hour left........... QUOTE]Originally posted by lbrown59"TRYING TO HELP" > By Dennis Miller > > All the rhetoric on whether or not we should go to war against Iraq has > got my little brain spinning like a top. I enjoy reading opinions from > both sides, but I've detected a hint of confusion from some of you. > Maybe this can help. > > As I was reading the paper recently, I was reminded of the best advice > anyone ever gave me. He told me about the "KISS" method ("Keep It > Simple, Stupid!"). So with this as a theme, I'd like to apply this > theory for those who don't quite get it. My hope is that we can > simplify things and recognize a few important facts. > > Here are ten things to consider when voicing an opinion on this > important > issue: > > (1) Between President Bush and Saddam Hussein ... Hussein is the bad > guy. > > (2) If you have faith in the Useless Nations to do the right things, > keep this in mind: the UN has Libya heading the Committee on Human > Rights and Iraq heading the Global Disarmament Committee. Do your own > math here. > > (3) If you use a Google or Yahoo search and type in "French Military > Victories," don't be surprised if your computer panicks at its inability > to respond to your inquiry. > > (4) If your only anti-war slogan is "No War For Oil," hire a pit bull > lawyer and sue your school district for having allowed you to slip > through the cracks and robbing you of the minimum education that any > non-troglodyte deserves > > (5) You can take this one to the bank: Saddam and bin Laden will NOT > seek UN approval before they try to kill us. > > (6) Despite common belief among some, Martin Sheen is NOT the President. > He only plays one on TV. > > (7) If you are anti-war and even an outright "America Basher," to bin > Laden you are still an "infidel" whom he wants dead. > > (8) Be careful: if you believe in a "vast right-wing conspiracy," but > not in the danger that Hussein poses, the only job you may be able to > get is as an Ivy League college professor. > > (9) Even multi-culturalists who try to browbeat us into believing that > all cultures are equally deserving of respect have trouble explaining > the past 500 years of Islam. > > (10) Whether you are for or against military action, our young men and > women overseas are fighting to defend our right to speak out on these > issues. They deserve our unreserved support. > > I hope this helps. > The END ************************* LB 59
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 1 Hour left........... Subject: America Wake Up Capt. Ouimette is the XO of NAS Pensacola. This is a copy of Dan Ouimette's speech to Pensacola's Civitan Club on February 19th. . ********************************* America WAKE UP! That's what we think we heard on the 11th of September 2001 and maybe it was, but I think it should have been "Get Out of Bed!" In fact, I think the alarm clock has been buzzing since 1979 and we have continued to hit the snooze button and roll over for a few more minutes of peaceful sleep since then. It was a cool fall day in November 1979 in a country going through a religious and political upheaval when a group of Iranian students attacked and seized the American Embassy in Tehran. This seizure was an outright attack on American soil; it was an attack that held the world's most powerful country hostage and paralyzed a Presidency. The attack on this sovereign US embassy set the stage for the events to follow for the next 23 years. America was still reeling from the aftermath of the Viet Nam experience and had a serious threat from the Soviet Union when then, President Carter, had to do something. He chose to conduct a clandestine raid in the desert. The ill-fated mission ended in ruin, but stood as a symbol of America's inability to deal with terrorism. America's military had been decimated and downsized / right sized since the end of the Viet Nam war. A poorly trained, poorly equipped and poorly organized military was called on to execute a complex mission that was doomed from the start. Shortly after the Tehran experience, Americans began to be kidnaped and killed throughout the Middle East. America could do little to protect her citizens living and working abroad. The attacks against US soil continued. In April of 1983 a large vehicle packed with high explosives was driven into the US Embassy compound in Beirut. When it explodes, it kills 63 people. The alarm went off again and America hit the Snooze Button once more. Then just six short months later a large truck heavily laden down with over 2500 pounds of TNT smashed through the main gate of the US Marine Corps headquarters in Beirut. 241 US servicemen are killed. America mourns her dead and hit the Snooze Button once more. Two months later in December 1983, another truck loaded with explosives is driven into the US Embassy in Kuwait, and America continues her slumber. The following year, in September 1984, another van was driven into the gates of the US Embassy in Beirut and America slept. Soon the terrorism spreads to Europe. In April 1985 a bomb explodes in a restaurant frequented by US soldiers in Madrid. Then in August a Volkswagen loaded with explosives is driven into the main gate of the US Air Force Base at Rhein-Main, 22 are killed and the Snooze Alarm is buzzing louder and louder as US soil is continually attacked. Fifty-nine days later a cruise ship, the Achille Lauro is hijacked and we watched as an American in a wheelchair is singled out of the passenger list and executed. The terrorists then shift their tactics to bombing civilian airliners when they bomb TWA Flight 840 in April of 1986 that killed 4 and the most tragic bombing, Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland in 1988, killing 259. America wants to treat these terrorist acts as crimes; in fact we are still trying to bring these people to trial. These are acts of war...the Wake Up alarm is louder and louder. The terrorists decide to bring the fight to America. In January 1993, two CIA agents are shot and killed as they enter CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia. The following month, February 1993, a group of terrorists are arrested after a rented van packed with explosives is driven into the underground parking garage of the World Trade Center in New York City. Six people are killed and over 1000 are injured. Still this is a crime and not an act of war? The Snooze alarm is depressed again. Then in November 1995 a car bomb explodes at a US military complex in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia killing seven service men and women. A few months later in June of 1996, another truck bomb explodes only 35 yards from the US military compound in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia. It destroys the Khobar Towers, a US Air Force barracks, killing 19 and injuring over 500. The terrorists are getting braver and smarter as they see that America does not respond decisively. They move to coordinate their attacks in a simultaneous attack on two US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. These attacks were planned with precision, they kill 224. America responds with cruise missile attacks and goes back to sleep. The USS Cole was docked in the port of Aden, Yemen for refueling on 12 October 2000, when a small craft pulled along side the ship and exploded killing 17 US Navy Sailors. Attacking a US War Ship is an act of war, but we sent the FBI to investigate the crime and went back to sleep. And of course you know the events of 11 September 2001. Most Americans think this was the first attack against US soil or in America. How wrong they are. America has been under a constant attack since 1979 and we chose to hit the snooze alarm and roll over and go back to sleep. In the news lately we have seen lots of finger pointing from every high official in government over what they knew and what they didn't know. But if you've read the papers and paid a little attention I think you can see exactly what they knew. You don't have to be in the FBI or CIA or on the National Security Council to see the pattern that has been developing since 1979. The President is right on when he says we are engaged in a war. I think we have been in a war for the past 23 years and it will continue until we as a people decide enough is enough. America has to "Get out of Bed" and act decisively now. America has changed forever. We have to be ready to pay the price and make the sacrifice to ensure our way of life continues. We cannot afford to hit the Snooze Button again and roll over and go back to sleep. We have to make the terrorists know that in the words of Admiral Yamamoto after the attack on Pearl Harbor "that all they have done is to awaken a sleeping giant." Thank you very much. Dan Ouimette Pensacola Civitan 19 Feb 2003 The END ************************* LB 59
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 1 Hour left........... 1*What the hell kind of statement is that you talk about this forefathers crap?Your forefathers used slaves to build this country and now the damn so called free slaves don't even get a fair shake. _S I M S =============== 1*The Civil War was fought over this. What do you suggest now another one? What would you have done to build the country? Where would the slaves be today if the country had not been built? The END ************************* LB 59 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 2*You say your country you mean the country that you stole from the Indians. What the hell is on you mind? SIMS ========================= 2*So the settlers should have sailed back to where they came from when they encountered the Indians rite? Just where would you , the slaves and the Indians be today it that had been the way it played out? The END ************************* LB 59 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 3*Why should I go anywhere my people helped build this place up? _S I M S =============== 3*Because you are condemning those who made the sacrifices it took to build it yet you seem to be willing to reap the benefits of their efforts. ------------------------------------- Just like my uncle who condemned the automobile had no right to ask or expect my dad to haul him around in his. To criticize something and at the same time take advantage of it is about as too faced as one can get. The actions contradict the words. The END ************************* LB 59
Re: Re: Re: 1 Hour left........... Don't waste your time on these idiots! "Unilaterallism" = 40 countries (that don't mind being mentioned) and another 12 - 15 countries (who prefer to have their participation kept secret). roflmao "Rush To War" = 12 years and 17 resolutions later. roflmao "MASSIVE anti war demonstration" = 48 people. roflmao Senator John Kerry (D-MA. possible democratic presidential candidate) says: "Iraq doesn't have nuclear weapons. North Korea has nuclear weapons that, with a push of a button, can immediately wipe out Hawaii, and the entire west coast of the U.S. Therefore why are we not attacking North Korea FIRST"? LOLOL And one more: Peter Jennings says, today: "We need to stop using this expression "shock and awe", because the only people who are being "shocked and awed" are the Iragi's". BUWAAHAHAHAHAHAHA! These people despise this country. Don't waste your breathe. Terms of Service violation removed. -- CCN steve Like the Bible says; "Never cast your pearl before swine".
Re: Re: Re: 1 Hour left........... Boycott France http://www.newsmaxstore.com/contribute/france/index2.cfm?refid=146
Re: Re: Re: Re: 1 Hour left........... Re: Re: Re: 1 Hour left........... thetravele | 107 posts since Jan 2003 24.193.6.111 | 03.22.2003 @ 21:58 I second that Butch. 5*Credit Score = Intelligence © t_sims224 thetravele ==================================== 5*IQ has been replaced with FICO. One thing about fico: It can be applied to anything LOL
Re: Re: Re: Re: 1 Hour left........... This is by far the most racist and inappropriate remark made on this board (not withstanding lbrown59's asinine inferences). CCN Steve - I can't believe that you let this pass.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 1 Hour left........... 1*(not withstanding lbrown59's asinine inferences). marci ================== Exactly what inferences are you talking about? What was asinine about them? 1*I'm dumbfounded by this statement and totally lost as to what you're even talking about.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 1 Hour left........... The Creditnet Terms of Service states: ...[disallows] any Content that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, tortious, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, libelous, invasive of another's privacy, hateful, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable For that reason, I have edited the TOS violation. It is important to remember that postings of this type are sometimes made "in the heat of the moment" (war would qualify as a generator of such heat) and without intending to violate TOS or the like. I think this difficult period in our collective history should afford each of us an opportunity to give each other the benefit of the doubt. CCN steve
Friday March 21, 2003; 10:26 a.m. EST NYC's Top Cop Slams Peace Protesters As angry demonstrators clogged streets and shut down highways and bridges in New York, Chicago and San Francisco on Thursday, New York City Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said that this generation of antiwar protesters has become particularly vicious. "There is a hard core group.... who are particularly nasty," Commissioner Kelly told WOR Radio's Bob Grant. "I've noticed this and I've been around a long time. 1*It's kind of like the Vietnam war protests." Kelly complained that the anti-Iraq war protesters had engaged in acts like "spitting on police officers, cursing at them, trying to instigate them." 2*He added, "It really is a disgrace for people that supposedly want peace." "There are police officers who are out there trying to do their job, trying to protect people's liberties and rights to voice their opinions," New York's top cop explained. He might have also noted that New York's finest sacrificed 23 hero cops in the 9/11 attacks. He said his police force had shown "tremendous restraint" in dealing with the hostile peaceniks. Still, "there is this hard core group of demonstrators (and) they're there to cause problems," Kelly told Grant. ++++++++++++ 1*Unlike the Vietnam war protests you can't call out the National Guard to quell rioting in the streets. They sent them to Iraq! War protesters are what got 4 Kent State students killed. As T SIMS says had the Kent State students been minding their own business that day it wouldn't have happened. [dcilor=red]2*They holler peace and practice war in the streets:Their actions speak louder than their words.[/color] The END ************************* LB 59
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 1 Hour left........... I agree that Butch did not intend to violate the TOS, but I thank you for having the guts to record that he did. No. First, difficult periods in our collective history are ALWAYS present (it's simply a matter of for whom the difficulty is greatest at any given time). Second, difficult circumstances should NEVER excuse bigotry, even as they expose said bigotry. Butch will not get the benefit of the doubt from me on this one. I'm just sorry that I didn't know it sooner. You should have seen this coming, Steve. The thread was headed in this direction anyway, and Butch simply took it to it's obvious end.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 1 Hour left........... Just wanted to share this E-Mail that was forwarded to me today. 3/18/2003 """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" I just received this and thought others might find it interesting: Subject: Think twice before eating Mc Happy Donuts. This week a Guard Unit in Morgan County Ohio was activated. The local community worked for donations to keep food available to the troops and their families on Sunday as they readied to move out and be with there families on that last day. Food came in from all contacts,......... Except McHappy's Donuts ! The management could not even donate day old donuts. They said they didn't believe in this war and that they would not help these soldiers and families. Because of a US Soldier you have a right to have a business. Because of a US Soldier you have a right to freedom of speech and a right to say your views. Because of the Government we have a War, and My only son will leave this week to fight for our Freedom. This family doesn't like war any more than anybody else, but I will stand beside these SOLDIERS, this country, this flag. With your coffee tomorrow, ask where those donuts came from, and think about a SOLDIER alone and away from his family as you enjoy it. You know I don't ever remember seeing a McHappy's Donut sign that said .......... NO SOLDIERS SERVED HERE Pass this on to every one you can if you feel as I do. The END ************************* LB 59
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 1 Hour left........... Admittedly, perhaps the quote from Dr. Van Lin was [arguably] inappropriate. However, it had NOTHING to do with racism or bigotry. Therefore I applaud Steves decision to remove same, even though no racial remark was in fact made nor intended. By removing Dr. Van Lins quote but not Marci's accusation leaves me defenseless. I won't accept the preposterous accusation that I did make a racial/bigoted remark by another board member, now that others cannot examine the (now removed) remark for themselves. Incredibly, there will always be those who scream racism and/or bigotry as soon as they see a comment they don't like. Nothing new here. Want proof? I happen to be a white male. So is Peter Jennings and Senator John Kerry.
