? about validation & estoppel

Discussion in 'Credit Talk' started by QUEEN_BEE, Apr 22, 2002.

  1. QUEEN_BEE

    QUEEN_BEE Well-Known Member

    I need help understanding this:

    Why should you send an estoppel after you have not received a validation response? What upper-hand does it give the consumer?
     
  2. QUEEN_BEE

    QUEEN_BEE Well-Known Member

    Lizardking,

    The estoppel basically means "do not contact me unless its for final resolution to the issue". Is that correct?
     
  3. charlieslex

    charlieslex Well-Known Member

    Lizardking, Would you mind sharing the CRA letter you sent to them? Thanks Charlie
     
  4. charlieslex

    charlieslex Well-Known Member

    Lizardking, What about the documentation that you sent them with the failure of the CA to verify? That had to go past the $7 person. Charlie
     
  5. BiznoteGuy

    BiznoteGuy Well-Known Member


    I agree that it's almost useless to send a full letter to the CRAs. I did that with EX a couple times and they said in all cases, "...Unfortunately, we could not use this information. We are contacting the source of the information you questioned."
     
  6. sal826

    sal826 Well-Known Member

    Lizardking,

    So basically what your saying is to dispute online with the CRA and forget sending them ANYTHING through the mail (Except lawsuit papers) is this correct? Have you had any luck sending them disputes via FAX?


    This is really beginning to concern me because I have atleast 3 creditors that have ignored my 1st and 2nd validation letters. If what your saying is true then copies of my letters would mean nothing to the CRA at all - thats an enormous blow to my stategy :(



    -Sal
     
  7. gib

    gib Well-Known Member

    Might not mean anything to the CRA, but it would mean A LOT to a judge in small claims court. It would establish that you have acted to resolve the matter, but the CA is ignoring all your requests and continuing collection activity without proving they have legal authority to do so.

    Gib
     
  8. cash1

    cash1 Well-Known Member

    What is the reason that you dispute online with the CRA's, while waiting validation from the CA? If you dispute with the CRA, how will you know wether or not the CA has followed the law and reported your accounts as disputed(the account shows as in dispute due to your dispute with the CRA)?

    Don't I want proof if the CA fails to identify disputed accounts with the CRA's, so that I have another violation to use as leverage against the CA?
     
  9. mindcrime2

    mindcrime2 Well-Known Member


    Good question.

    The CA is supposed place a notation on your account that it is in dispute within 5 days or 5 business days (not sure which) from the date they receive your validation request letter. So... you should wait out at least 5-10 days before disputing with the CRA. That way, you gave the CA enough time to place the account " in dispute ", and if they verify with the CRA before they validate the account for you, you now have them on two violations, instead of just one.
     
  10. sal826

    sal826 Well-Known Member

    Awesome tactic Mindcrime.





    -Sal
     

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