Just looked at yahoo news on "airline security profiling" and noticed something disturbing. "Transportation officials say a contractor will be picked soon to build the nationwide computer system, which will check such things as credit reports and bank account activity and compare passenger names with those on government watch lists." I can see those who have bad credit getting a body cavity search done everytime before they can get on an airplane.
Reminds me to never travel with friends or family--I hate to have to explain how me not paying a bill has now resulted in me being violated by a (wo)man wearing big yellow industrial gloves......Bend over and crack us all a smile.....lol
Hubby brought up something that was interesting...all airport screeners went federal because local authorities, i.e. cops, etc. cannot perform illegal search and seizure. Since the government is exemp from lawsuit, they convert the screeners to federal because of all of the pending suits filed by people who have been illegally searched. THought it was interesting. \ And the beat goes on......
If you think FEWER and FEWER people are flying now...just wait till they start real HIGH SECURITY and behind the scenes screening that you have no idea about!!! I think the "ROAD TRIP" will return...not the one week vacation...IT WILL HAVE TO BE 3 to 4 weeks long!!! New van or rent one...HOTEL to HOTEL!!! I FLY BECAUSE I CAN DO DEN~LAX IN A LITTLE OVER 2 HOURS OR I COULD DO 18 HOURS+ ONE WAY AND IN BAD WEATHER 2 DAYS!!!
Here's the full story. It makes me sick. I can't believe this is what this world has come to. Just another reason why it's really important to get our credit back. -Luke WASHINGTON (Feb. 28) - Delta Air Lines will begin testing a new government plan for air security next month that will check background information and assign a threat level to everyone who buys a ticket for a commercial flight. The system, ordered by Congress after the Sept. 11 attacks, will gather much more information on passengers than has been done previously. Delta will try it out at three undisclosed airports, and a comprehensive system could be in place by the end of the year. Transportation officials say a contractor will be picked soon to build the nationwide computer system, which will check such things as credit reports and bank account activity and compare passenger names with those on government watch lists. Civil liberties groups and activists are objecting to the plan, seeing the potential for unconstitutional invasions of privacy and for database mix-ups that could lead to innocent people being branded security risks. ``This system threatens to create a permanent blacklisted underclass of Americans who cannot travel freely,'' said Katie Corrigan, a lawyer for the American Civil Liberties Union. There also is concern that the government is developing the system without revealing how information will be gathered and how long it will be kept. Advocates say the system will weed out dangerous people while ensuring law-abiding citizens aren't given unnecessary scrutiny. Transportation officials say CAPPS II - Computer Assisted Passenger Prescreening System - will use databases that already operate in line with privacy laws and won't profile based on race, religion or ethnicity. ``What it does is have very fast access to existing databases so we can quickly validate the person's identity,'' Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta said. An oversight panel, which will include a member of the public, is being formed. The Transportation Security Administration will set up procedures to resolve complaints by people who say they don't belong on the watch lists. Transportation Department spokesman Chet Lunner said a Federal Register notice saying the background information will be stored for 50 years is inaccurate. He said such information will be held only for people deemed security risks. Jay Stanley, an ACLU spokesman, was skeptical. ``When it says in print, 50 years, we'd like to see something else in print to counter that,'' he said. Airlines already do rudimentary checks of passenger information, such as method of payment, address and date the ticket was reserved. The system was developed by Northwest Airlines in the early 1990s to spot possible hijackers. Unusual behavior, such as purchasing a one-way ticket with cash, is supposed to prompt increased scrutiny at the airport. Capt. Steve Luckey, an airline pilot who helped develop the system, said CAPPS II will help discern a passenger's possible intentions before he gets on a plane. Unlike the current system, in which data stays with the airlines' reservation systems, the new setup will be managed by TSA. Only government officials with proper security clearance will be able to use it. CAPPS II will collect data and rate each passenger's risk potential according to a three-color system: green, yellow, red. When travelers check in, their names will be punched into the system and their boarding passes encrypted with the ranking. TSA screeners will check the passes at checkpoints. The vast majority of passengers will be rated green and won't be subjected to anything more than normal checks, while yellow will get extra screening and red won't fly. Paul Hudson, executive director of the Aviation Consumer Action Project, which advocates airline safety and security, is skeptical the system will work. ``The whole track record of profiling is a very poor to mixed one,'' Hudson said, noting incorrect profiles of the Unabomber and the Washington-area snipers. Nine to 11 of the 19 hijackers on Sept. 11 were flagged by the original CAPPS, but weren't searched because the system gave a pass to passengers who didn't check their bags, Hudson said. People without checked bags are now included. 02/28/03 08:40 EST Copyright 2003 The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise distributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press. All active hyperlinks have been inserted by AOL.
This is a bit OT but it really burns me up on all these federal screeners. It bullsh*t how they operate. No common sense whatsoever. C'mon tell me how many white post menopausal women do you know that have blown up airlplanes?
Red is a very pretty color. Much better than green or yellow. I'll pick red every time in this case. I'll design my own boarding ticket too. It will bear a picture of an airliner inside a big red circle with a big X in the circle. Like the no smoking circles. Under the circle will be big letters which will say FORGET THE AIRLINES - FLY CESSNA
Just imagine what it will do to your credit report, if you get new hard inquiries every time you take a trip by air. It won't take long until your credit's in the basement.
Bend over and crack us all a smile.....lol LAT ================ Folks would never notice. They're all ready so used to bending over for them now.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." --Benjamin Franklin
How embarrassing if my spouse can get on the plane but I have to wait 4-6 weeks to get my letter of denial in the mail. I guess you can tell those of us with less than perfect credit--I'll have a Cross Country Credit card, a Trac-fone, and have to take the Greyhound on all my destinations....hhee hee
1*Advocates say the system will weed out dangerous people while ensuring law-abiding citizens aren't given unnecessary scrutiny. 2*The whole track record of is a very poor to mixed one,'' Hudson said, Luke =================== 1*Just like it has taken the high risk dangerous drivers off the roads for insurers. 2*Just like it is for insurance and loans. Profiling is already a horrendous monster in the areas of insurance loans and credit reporting. Expanding it ever farther into other areas is a disaster waiting to happen. The ~~~~~ END PS Many innocents will be buying a one way ticket into San Quentin just as They're now buying their way into credit hell. The END ************************* LB 59
Re: Re: Bad Credit Results in Strip Search Good qestion, but I have a better one. What the hell is a kid not old enough to legally drive a freaking car doing at the controls of an aircraft to begin with?
new travel rules-Fico Base on your Fico score you can... 700 Up: travel by air 650 Up: travel by air with 7 days advance apprvl 650 DWN: only Travel by Train 600 DWN: only Travel by bus 550 DWN: YOU WALK! I guess I am walking....
