CA Want to Play Hardball.Let's Play

Discussion in 'Credit Talk' started by lbowman, Nov 27, 2002.

  1. The Kid

    The Kid Well-Known Member

    It's not a pissing match at all...

    Do you have any case law to support your proposition? If so, lay it out...would LOVE to see it.

    Suppose that the CA has no idea that I just moved to a little town in Texas. How could they possibly take an action against me in that little town if they have no idea that I live down there?

    Talk to an attorney, or open a book, look up "personal jurisdiction" and you will learn something new. I promise you that.
     
  2. lbowman

    lbowman Well-Known Member

    OK....here's another one of my original questions I need help with. I jumped the gun and disputed the account. And my Intent to Sue fax didn't work. I planned on filing suit today if not removed. If after 30 days the item is deleted, do I still have grounds to sue or is my case shot?? Should I go ahead and file today or wait until the investigation is over (really pissed that it would still be on my report for another 25 + days)?

    -LB
     
  3. waalien

    waalien Well-Known Member

    IMO, you should wait until the investigation is over.

    Why?

    Because if they verify, without stating that the account is in dispute, you have them on another $1000 violation. I do know that it sucks to have to wait the 25+ days to find out, though.

    Check out this link

    http://www.bayhouse.com/credit-forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=601 - it's a situation similar to yours and it goes off on some tangents that will be helpful for you to read, and some links that you should check out as well (regarding venue, lol).

    (sorry for all the bayhouse links, but I'm reading this thread at the same time as bayhouse)
     
  4. lbowman

    lbowman Well-Known Member

    Thanks, waalien. You've been a big help. I'm heading over to Bayhouse now.

    -LB
     
  5. Jeff

    Jeff Guest

    You are incorrect The Kid. LB can absolutely sue in his/her own state. We are not guessing. This is a basic principle of law.
     
  6. arobinson

    arobinson Well-Known Member

    Wrong, you always get "home court advantage!",plus the CA will be more than happy to settle once they see you actually sued. I sued EMCC for a x.com account, settled. They never contacted me in MD, I just noticed an entry on my CR.
     
  7. hmongster

    hmongster Well-Known Member

    You mistook the point I was trying to make. Understandable though. The person who FILES A LAWSUIT (plaintiff) files a lawsuit in their jurisdiction. The person or business who RECEIVES THE LAWSUIT (defendant) must respond to the jurisdiction where the lawsuit was filed.

    This is why small claims works so well for plaintiffs if the defendant lives out of state. I think this is the reason why you object so much. Cuts into your CA profits?
     
  8. lbowman

    lbowman Well-Known Member

    Thanks for posting your experience with them. I'm so peeved that I"m not even gonna wait for the 30 day investigation with Equifax. I called to have the forms mailed to me and once I have them..I'm filing. And when I file, I want deletion and $$$...if they were gonna delete, they should've done so when I attempted to resolve this matter over 9 months ago.

    -LB
     
  9. rackt3

    rackt3 Well-Known Member

    Is there a way to put someone on ignore? I'd really like to ignore this "kid" person. He's had no good information to offer anyone that I've seen... the only thing I've seen him do on here is start flame wars.

    Now he's saying can't sue a CA in your state because the CA is in a different state? Even though the CA is able to addan entry on your report? Which law books have you studied,kid?
    I mean, as John Stossel would say, give me a break!
     
  10. waalien

    waalien Well-Known Member

    rackt, click on the blue "account" button at the top of your screen. From there, click on the "ignore" button, and you'll get some blanks to put names into. Put in "the kid" and click on the "update" button.

    doing all this from memory so if I missed a step, forgive me. But that's how I put him on ignore this morning :)
     
  11. humblemarc

    humblemarc Well-Known Member

    good idea, depending on when the lawsuit is heard, if they don't settle, you can amend the complaint to include the current violation. But hopefully, once you file, and they get the dispute notice, they will just delete, and say "what tradeline?" Of course, at that point, it is up to you to continue with the violations they have ALREADY committed or just have them sign a settlement letter indicating they will never report the account or SELL it to someone else or RETURN it to the OC.

    OT-- make sure you ALERT Pbm about Kid's disruptive influence on the board.
     
  12. niteowl

    niteowl Member

    from the fair debt collection practices act

    § 813. Civil liability

    (d) An action to enforce any liability created by this title may be brought in any appropriate United States district court without regard to the amount in controversy, or in any other court of competent jurisdiction, within one year from the date on which the violation occurs.
     
  13. lbowman

    lbowman Well-Known Member

    Thanks for your input, humblemarc. I've so ticked that I may not settle for just a deletion. They'll at least have to pay my fililng fees, etc. I mean, what is it with CA's. They won't delete until I actually sue...why go through all the drama..DELETE ALREADY. BTW, I just pulled my report..it's still there. Obviously, they don't take my "threats" seriously.

    -LB
     
  14. The Kid

    The Kid Well-Known Member

    Actually, I am providing accurate information, my friend.

    As indicated previously, in order for there to be jurisdiction in a particular court, the court must have personal jurisdiction and subject matter jurisdiction.

    You can find both of these legal concepts discussed at length in any civil procedure text. You may wish to do a search on google.com under "civil procedure emanuels" and that will get you started on an explanation of subject matter and personal jurisdiction. I assure you that these concepts are well founded, not something that I am making up. lol

    Some of the posters act as though you can sue anyone in any jurisdiction at all, and that is inaccurate. Think of the consequences...a plaintiff could select ANY forum at all. This is NOT how it works, folks. Doc or anyone who understands personal jurisdiction would tell you the same.

    If the person who began this thread is still listening, perhaps you can indicate whether the CA made any phone calls to you or sent any mail to you in the county in which you wish to file suit.
     
  15. The Kid

    The Kid Well-Known Member

    The key words there are "appropriate" and "competent". Every word counts.
     
  16. gib

    gib Well-Known Member

    You remind me a lot of another dipstick that used to call himself "JustMe". As usual you are wrong here again. You really need to do some basic research on jurisdiction.

    Gib
     
  17. The Kid

    The Kid Well-Known Member

    No debate, but do you know what personal jurisdiction is? Do you think that the court needs personal jurisdiction over a party in order to sue them?
     
  18. The Kid

    The Kid Well-Known Member

    Well, I am saying that in order for a particular court to hear a case regarding a party, that court generally must have personal jurisdiction over the party. A party can waive a lack of personal jurisdiction defense if they wish to. Subject matter jurisdiction cannot be waived.

    I am not flaming anyone here at all...not sure why you think that.

    I am talking about personal jurisdiction.

    I am not making this up, folks. LOL
     
  19. The Kid

    The Kid Well-Known Member

    Please read this link if you want to learn something about jurisdiction:

    http://www.lexisnexis.com/lawschool/emanuel/web/civpro/index.html
     
  20. Jeff

    Jeff Guest

    The Kid, your application of this info. is incorrect. LB certainly can sue this CA in his/her state. I know this as a fact. So do many others here. It is a basic principle of law.

    You are making a fool of yourself. You will do yourself a favor by letting this go.
     

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