Can I try to vacate judgement?

Discussion in 'Credit Talk' started by 2old4this, Sep 17, 2004.

  1. 2old4this

    2old4this Member

    Summons was served in following manner:

    "Affixing To Door. By affixing a true copy of each to the door of said premises, which is recipients dwelling house (usual place of abode) within the state. Deponent was unable, with due dilligence to find recipient or a person of suitable age and discretion, having called thereat

    XXXX2004 6:40 am
    XXXX2004 7:30 pm
    XXXX2004 9:15 am

    And then the judgement also indicates they sent a summons by mail (which I never received and in NY does not have to be sent via certified or registered mail).

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    The reason I am asking is because even if I were not home on those dates, my husband is oxygen dependant and housebound (only leaves the house when I take him to doctor appointments) and therefore definitely was home on all of those dates.

    Any chance I could somehow prove that and vacate the judgement for non-service?

    How long does one have to try to get a judgement vacated?
     
  2. pd11604

    pd11604 Well-Known Member

    From the NY State CPLR:

    S 308. Personal service upon a natural person.

    Personal service upon a natural person shall be made by any of the following methods:

    1. by delivering the summons within the state to the person to be
    served;
    or
    2. by delivering the summons within the state to a person of suitable age and discretion at the actual place of business, dwelling place or usual place of abode of the person to be served and by either mailing the summons to the person to be served at his or her last known
    residence or by mailing the summons by first class mail to the person to be served at his or her actual place of business
    in an envelope bearing
    the legend "personal and confidential" and not indicating on the outside thereof, by return address or otherwise, that the communication is from
    an attorney or concerns an action against the person to be served, such delivery and mailing to be effected within twenty days of each other;
    proof of such service shall be filed with the clerk of the court designated in the summons within twenty days of either such delivery or mailing, whichever is effected later; service shall be complete ten days
    after such filing; proof of service shall identify such person of suitable age and discretion and state the date, time and place of service, except in matrimonial actions where service hereunder may be
    made pursuant to an order made in accordance with the provisions of subdivision a of section two hundred thirty-two of the domestic relations law;
    or
    3. by delivering the summons within the state to the agent for service of the person to be served as designated under rule 318, except in
    matrimonial actions where service hereunder may be made pursuant to an order made in accordance with the provisions of subdivision a of section
    two hundred thirty-two of the domestic relations law;

    4. where service under paragraphs one and two cannot be made with due diligence, by affixing the summons to the door of either the actual
    place of business, dwelling place or usual place of abode within the state of the person to be served and by either mailing the summons to such person at his or her last known residence or by mailing the summons by first class mail to the person to be served at his or her actual place of business
    in an envelope bearing the legend "personal and
    confidential" and not indicating on the outside thereof, by return address or otherwise, that the communication is from an attorney or
    concerns an action against the person to be served, such affixing and mailing to be effected within twenty days of each other; proof of such
    service shall be filed with the clerk of the court designated in the summons within twenty days of either such affixing or mailing, whichever
    is effected later; service shall be complete ten days after such filing, except in matrimonial actions where service hereunder may be made pursuant to an order made in accordance with the provisions of
    subdivision a of section two hundred thirty-two of the domestic relations law;

    5. in such manner as the court, upon motion without notice, directs, if service is impracticable under paragraphs one, two and four of this
    section.

    6. For purposes of this section, "actual place of business" shall include any location that the defendant, through regular solicitation or
    advertisement, has held out as its place of business.
     
  3. pd11604

    pd11604 Well-Known Member

    It looks like they followed proper rules of service highlighted by section #4 above....they affixed the summons to your door, AND they mailed you a copy
     
  4. 2old4this

    2old4this Member

    Thanks - that's what I thought, but I wanted to be sure.

    I never received a summons on the door OR in the mail, but because they can use these means without signatures and/or registered mail it pretty much leaves them capable of just saying "Yup. That's what we did." :( Isn't it ironic though that if I were to have any contact with them, in order for it to be considered true I would need a registered mail receipt for the judge.
     

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