UPdated List Regarding installment loan products (auto+home), I would say yes, credit unions are very BK friendly and the rates are very good (all things considered). However, for revolving unsecured (credit cards) at least for me has been very BK UNfriendly even though I have a auto loan with them. I'm interested to see others response. This is a good question to ask.
Re: Re: Updates... I applied for Chase Perfect, was rejected for BK (2.5 years old). I appealed on PFB and via email, since I have a car loan w/them for 8 months and they didn't have a problem with my BK there. Waiting to hear back, will update as I hear more. Fingers crossed...
Re: Re: Updates... Nana, Denied for a kohls card, pulled TU, Reason high utilization and accounts too new, Target and cap 1 at 0 bal and 0 high credit so I guess 0% of 0 equal too high utilization As george says "frivilous denial"
Re: Re: Updates... Brad - Thank you!!! That really helps! Looks like I may update that comment to include this info! Dan - I'm keeping my fingers, eyes, ears, nose, toes crossed!!! Please do keep us informed! Trent - I'm so sorry! That just stinks!!!!!
Re: Re: Updates... Originally posted by NanaC BK FRIENDLY CREDITORS Compiled by NanaC Clarifications: Listings based on earliest receipt of credit. Occasionally, something may appear to be listed twice. This results from the credit being somehow different, for example, secured and unsecured, credit limits, etc. PFB = Planet FeedBack STARTER BK CARDS: score bad. 1. Household - unsecured 300 - 5 mos., score about 560 ( www.householdbank.com/hb/CustomerCa...direct=HomePage ) 2. Cap1 - Secured and Unsecured ( www.capitalone.com ) 3. Orchard - Secured ( www.orchardbank.com/care/CustomerCa...direct=HomePage ) 4. American Online Secured Visa ( www.apbank.com/021_scc.html ) 5. Mazda (Ford) - 1 day post BK13 - auto loan 6. Kay Jewelers - $2000 - 1 year post BK, score about 540 (www.kayjewelers.com) 6 MOS - 1 YEAR REBUILDING CREDIT: score low 600s 1. Cap1 - unsecured gold 500 ( www.capitalone.com ) 2. Orchard - unsecured $500 ( www.orchardbank.com/care/CustomerCa...direct=HomePage ) 3. Target Guest Card- unsecured 200 (target.com/common/financialservices/apply_online.jhtml) 4. First Premier - $200 ( www.credit-cards-s.com/premier.asp ) 5. Citifinancial Mortgage - 6 mths post - 9% ( www.citifinancial.com ) 6. Providian Platinum (www.providan.com) 7. First National Bank Of Marin - $300 unsecured - low 600's (www.fnbmarin.com) 1-2 YEARS REBUILDING: score mid 600s 1. AT&T Wireless - No deposit ( http://www.attws.com ) 2. Cap1 Platinum - unsecured 5000. Yes, platinum. started w/regular card and negotiated credit line to platinum. (Wow!) ( www.capitalone.com ) 3. Cross Country Bank Visa - unsecured - $300, then $600, then $1250 over time. * ( www.crosscountrybank.com ) 4. Cross Country Bank MC - unsecured - $350 * ( www.crosscountrybank.com ) 5. Dillards - unsecured - $500 ( www.dillards.com/cca/CreditCardApplication.jsp ) 6. Circuit City â?? unsecured -$2000 ( http://www.circuitcity.com ) 7. Western Security Bank - secured ( www.westernsecuritybank.com ) 8. Direct Merchants Bank $1001 (Semi-secured) - pre-approved mailings only ( www.directmerchantsbank.com ) 9. Sprint PCS - $200 Assigned Spending Limit ( www.sprint.com ) 10. Newport News/Spiegals/Eddie Bauer ( www.spiegals.com/home.asp ) 11. Merrick - $1000, about 650 FICO (www.applymerrick.com) 2+ Years Rebuilding: score low to mid 600's: 1. Aspire - unsecured - $500 ( www.compucredit.com/pdcts.html ) 2. Voicestream - No deposit ( www.voicestream.com ) 3. Bank One Checking Account with Debit Card after 5 months usage ( www.bankone.com ) 4. Mortgage Received (No specific name as more than one loan was found by those reporting receipt of mortgage loan.) 5. Nordstrom - suggest not applying on-line ( www.nordstrom.nordstrom.com ) 6. First N.A. Nat. Bank - 3 years (www.fnanb.com) 7. Citibank MC- will consider post-7 years ( www.citibank.com ) 8. Nextel - must be 7 years post BK, no dep. ( www.nextel.com ) 9. Exxon - 4 years ( www.exxon.com ) 10. Home Depot - 4 years ( www.homedepot.com ) ** 11. Bloomingdales - 3 years ( www.bloomingdales.com ) 12. Verizon - no deposit ( www.verizonwireless.com ) 13. Washington Mutual Visa secured card issued by Citibank N.A. South Dakota ( www.washingtonmutual.com ) 14. Mervyn's ** ( www.mervyns.com ) 15. Generations (6 year mark!) - $1000 ( www.genscu.com ) 16. Target Visa - mid 600's required ( www.target.com ) 17. Lowes - 3+ years ( www.lowes.com ) 18. Washington Mutual Mortgage - 3+ years ( www.wamuhomeloans.com ) 19. Nordstrom - 5+ years (www. Nordstrom.com) 20. Wescom Credit Union - 5+ years ( www.wescom.org ) 21. First Nationwide Mortgage - 5 years ( www.firstnationwide.com ) 22. Dell - $1500 - 5+ years ( www.dell.com ) 23. Nissan Lease - 6+ years (Please provide link if known.) 24. Phillips 66 - 7.5 years ( www.phillips66.com ) 25. Ford Credit - 5 years ( www.fordcredit.com ) 26. Diamond Shamrock - 6.5 yrs ( www.valero.com ) 27. Menard's Big Card (Conseco) - $3000 - 5+ years ( www.menards.com ) 28. Capital One Auto Finance -14 % interest, score approximately 650 - ( www.capitalone.com/capitaloneplace/...id=2000bann0202 ) 29. JCB Card - CE642 (www.jcbusa.com) 30. Union Plus - initial rejection, then approved on PFB reconsideration (www.unionplus.com)** 31. Corvette Mastercard - 7 years post (was not in dispute when pulled)- score 678 with 4 CA's in dispute when pulled - $1500 - (www.household.com/corp/hipf_credit_card_select.jsp)** Special Considerations-please consider these with a cautious mindset as these are not based on actual approvals but information gathered through CSR's, etc.: 1. Bank of America - will consider post-BK if you have established credit and can show unusual circimstances (business loss, medical, etc.). Customer service rep reports Secured considered 5-years post BK, Unsecured 7-years post BK. 2. Citibank MC- will consider post-BK after 7 years 3. Citibank Diners Club - will consider post-BK if you have established credit and can show unusual circimstances (business loss, medical, etc.) 4. Federated (Pres. Club Visa)- 3 years post BK was able to override with explanation and good (>680) score 5. Federated (Macy's) Store Card - 2 years post-BK was able to override with explanation. Rejections (BK Unfriendly): ** Seen on both lists 1. Lowe's (MB) 2. Home Depot (MB) ** 3. Walmart 4. Mervyns ** 5. Exxon/Mobile ** 6. Amex Green 7. Best Buy (Household)-Recently confirmed letter due to bankruptcy Ch 13 6.5 years 8. Citgo 9. Amex Optima Secured 10. Home Depot 11. CitiBank 12. Associates: Citgo (try manual 24 ms+, 3 good lines) 13. First USA (try manual 5+ years discharge) 14. Bank of America 15. Sears 16. Fleet 17. First USA 18. Mens Wearhouse 19. Monogram Bank = MB ** 20. Amex LOC 21. Juniper 22. Chase Manhattan 23. Target Visa 24. Corvette Mastercard** 25. Target with recent BK discharge within 4 months** 26. UnionPlus** 27. GM Card 28. Conoco 29. Newport News/Spiegals/Eddie Bauer ** 30. Wells Fargo Secured 31. WFNNB 32. Circuit City ** 33. J.C. Penney 34. Kohl's Smart Suggestions: 1) Try Credit Unions 2) Ford is BK friendly (updated 12/16/03)
Re: Re: Updates... Just added Corvette...reported that it was received 7 years post BK..see list for additional info...this one is seen on both lists!
Re: Re: Updates... Nana you may want to add Kay Jewelers to not BK friendly (my experience) even at the 2 year 2 month mark. ?? The phone call specifically mentioned a 'recent' bankruptcy as one of the reasons of denial. Although some have had success after BK. Your guess is as good as mine as to where you want to put that on your list....which is wonderful by the way.
Chase & Citi sharing blacklists? Got the weirdest rejection letter from Chase. Yes, they're BK unfriendly. Have a car loan for 8 months w/them, thought I could build on our "relationship". More here: http://consumers.creditnet.com/straighttalk/board/showthread.php?s=&postid=395202#post395202 Since they mention Citi and not other bank/cc, I wonder if they're looking out for each other and maybe sharing blacklist info? http://consumers.creditnet.com/straighttalk/board/showthread.php?s=&postid=395240#post395240 So, 2 years and four months post Ch7 filing, Chase is not interested.
Re: Chase & Citi sharing blacklists? CHASE DENIED ME A SECOND ACCOUNT AND JACKED THE ONE I DID HAVE ALL FOR ONE BOGUS 30 DAY LATE!!!
Re: Chase & Citi sharing blacklists? Sorry, George Wow, 370 posts in this thread..you all have been so helpful!! Thank you!
Re: Re: Chase & Citi sharing blacklists? What is totally STUPID about that CHASE 30 day late is...IT NEVER HAPPENED!!! They admitted it in writing... ...and I have all the proof of payments from day one...
Re: Re: Chase & Citi sharing blacklists? Outrageous, George..it really is...and I know you've never been late... Target has issues like this..I couldn't close them soon enough!
Re: Re: Re: Chase & Citi sharing blacklists? THEY GOT THEIR "REWARD" They lost the account...wife's card is PAID IN FULL...AND collecting LINT
Re: Re: Re: Re: Chase & Citi sharing blacklists? And, that's what they deserve...they lost a great customer..how stupid is that... I now have 2 cards with them..and I watch them like a hawk because I know what they did to you...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Chase & Citi sharing blacklists? THEY ADMITTED THEIR MISTAKE...BUT REFUSED TO FIX IT---REFUSED TO UN-JACK THE ACCOUNT...AND REDUSED TO APPROVE THE SECOND ACCOUNT THAT WAS DENIED BECAUSE OF THAT SAME BOGUS 30 DAY LATE!!!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Chase & Citi sharing blacklists? It makes you wonder, doesn't it? But, honestly, George, they lost a lot when they lost your business...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Chase & Citi sharing blacklists? Chase blows..... Don't know why you'd even want to take a card from these losers.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Chase & Citi sharing blacklists? I have to be honest..I was nonprime for so long, I didn't read much about prime stuff until just recently..and I had just gotten the card... so a lot of what I've learned has been recent.. LOL..it's important to remember how much better they looked to me than Emerge, Aspire, CCB..lol...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Chase & Citi sharing blacklists? Originally posted by NanaC BK FRIENDLY CREDITORS Compiled by NanaC Clarifications: Listings based on earliest receipt of credit. Occasionally, something may appear to be listed twice. This results from the credit being somehow different, for example, secured and unsecured, credit limits, etc. PFB = Planet FeedBack STARTER BK CARDS: score bad. 1. Household - unsecured 300 - 5 mos., score about 560 ( www.householdbank.com/hb/CustomerCa...direct=HomePage ) 2. Cap1 - Secured and Unsecured ( www.capitalone.com ) 3. Orchard - Secured ( www.orchardbank.com/care/CustomerCa...direct=HomePage ) 4. American Online Secured Visa ( www.apbank.com/021_scc.html ) 5. Mazda (Ford) - 1 day post BK13 - auto loan 6. Kay Jewelers - $2000 - 1 year post BK, score about 540 (www.kayjewelers.com) 6 MOS - 1 YEAR REBUILDING CREDIT: score low 600s 1. Cap1 - unsecured gold 500 ( www.capitalone.com ) 2. Orchard - unsecured $500 ( www.orchardbank.com/care/CustomerCa...direct=HomePage ) 3. Target Guest Card- unsecured 200 (target.com/common/financialservices/apply_online.jhtml) 4. First Premier - $200 ( www.credit-cards-s.com/premier.asp ) 5. Citifinancial Mortgage - 6 mths post - 9% ( www.citifinancial.com ) 6. Providian Platinum (www.providan.com) 7. First National Bank Of Marin - $300 unsecured - low 600's (www.fnbmarin.com) - appears to be by mai offer only 1-2 YEARS REBUILDING: score mid 600s 1. AT&T Wireless - No deposit ( http://www.attws.com ) 2. Cap1 Platinum - unsecured 5000. Yes, platinum. started w/regular card and negotiated credit line to platinum. (Wow!) ( www.capitalone.com ) 3. Cross Country Bank Visa - unsecured - $300, then $600, then $1250 over time. * ( www.crosscountrybank.com ) 4. Cross Country Bank MC - unsecured - $350 * ( www.crosscountrybank.com ) 5. Dillards - unsecured - $500 ( www.dillards.com/cca/CreditCardApplication.jsp ) 6. Circuit City â?? unsecured -$2000 ( http://www.circuitcity.com ) 7. Western Security Bank - secured ( www.westernsecuritybank.com ) 8. Direct Merchants Bank $1001 (Semi-secured) - pre-approved mailings only ( www.directmerchantsbank.com ) 9. Sprint PCS - $200 Assigned Spending Limit ( www.sprint.com ) 10. Newport News/Spiegals/Eddie Bauer ( www.spiegals.com/home.asp ) 11. Merrick - $1000, about 650 FICO (www.applymerrick.com) 2+ Years Rebuilding: score low to mid 600's: 1. Aspire - unsecured - $500 ( www.compucredit.com/pdcts.html ) 2. Voicestream - No deposit ( www.voicestream.com ) 3. Bank One Checking Account with Debit Card after 5 months usage ( www.bankone.com ) 4. Mortgage Received (No specific name as more than one loan was found by those reporting receipt of mortgage loan.) 5. Nordstrom - suggest not applying on-line ( www.nordstrom.nordstrom.com ) 6. First N.A. Nat. Bank - 3 years (www.fnanb.com) 7. Citibank MC- will consider post-7 years ( www.citibank.com ) 8. Nextel - must be 7 years post BK, no dep. ( www.nextel.com ) 9. Exxon - 4 years ( www.exxon.com ) 10. Home Depot - 4 years ( www.homedepot.com ) ** 11. Bloomingdales - 3 years ( www.bloomingdales.com ) 12. Verizon - no deposit ( www.verizonwireless.com ) 13. Washington Mutual Visa secured card issued by Citibank N.A. South Dakota ( www.washingtonmutual.com ) 14. Mervyn's ** ( www.mervyns.com ) 15. Generations (6 year mark!) - $1000 ( www.genscu.com ) 16. Target Visa - mid 600's required ( www.target.com ) 17. Lowes - 3+ years ( www.lowes.com ) 18. Washington Mutual Mortgage - 3+ years ( www.wamuhomeloans.com ) 19. Nordstrom - 5+ years (www. Nordstrom.com) 20. Wescom Credit Union - 5+ years ( www.wescom.org ) 21. First Nationwide Mortgage - 5 years ( www.firstnationwide.com ) 22. Dell - $1500 - 5+ years ( www.dell.com ) 23. Nissan Lease - 6+ years (Please provide link if known.) 24. Phillips 66 - 7.5 years ( www.phillips66.com ) 25. Ford Credit - 5 years ( www.fordcredit.com ) 26. Diamond Shamrock - 6.5 yrs ( www.valero.com ) 27. Menard's Big Card (Conseco) - $3000 - 5+ years ( www.menards.com ) 28. Capital One Auto Finance -14 % interest, score approximately 650 - ( www.capitalone.com/capitaloneplace/...id=2000bann0202 ) 29. JCB Card - CE642 (www.jcbusa.com) 30. Union Plus - initial rejection, then approved on PFB reconsideration (www.unionplus.com)** 31. Corvette Mastercard - 7 years post (was not in dispute when pulled)- score 678 with 4 CA's in dispute when pulled - $1500 - (www.household.com/corp/hipf_credit_card_select.jsp)** Special Considerations-please consider these with a cautious mindset as these are not based on actual approvals but information gathered through CSR's, etc.: 1. Bank of America - will consider post-BK if you have established credit and can show unusual circimstances (business loss, medical, etc.). Customer service rep reports Secured considered 5-years post BK, Unsecured 7-years post BK. 2. Citibank MC- will consider post-BK after 7 years 3. Citibank Diners Club - will consider post-BK if you have established credit and can show unusual circimstances (business loss, medical, etc.) 4. Federated (Pres. Club Visa)- 3 years post BK was able to override with explanation and good (>680) score 5. Federated (Macy's) Store Card - 2 years post-BK was able to override with explanation. Rejections (BK Unfriendly): ** Seen on both lists 1. Lowe's (MB) 2. Home Depot (MB) ** 3. Walmart 4. Mervyns ** 5. Exxon/Mobile ** 6. Amex Green 7. Best Buy (Household)-Recently confirmed letter due to bankruptcy Ch 13 6.5 years 8. Citgo 9. Amex Optima Secured 10. Home Depot 11. CitiBank 12. Associates: Citgo (try manual 24 ms+, 3 good lines) 13. First USA (try manual 5+ years discharge) 14. Bank of America 15. Sears 16. Fleet 17. First USA 18. Mens Wearhouse 19. Monogram Bank = MB ** 20. Amex LOC 21. Juniper 22. Chase Manhattan 23. Target Visa 24. Corvette Mastercard** 25. Target with recent BK discharge within 4 months** 26. UnionPlus** 27. GM Card 28. Conoco 29. Newport News/Spiegals/Eddie Bauer ** 30. Wells Fargo Secured 31. WFNNB 32. Circuit City ** 33. J.C. Penney 34. Kohl's Smart Suggestions: 1) Try Credit Unions 2) Ford is BK friendly (updated 12/24/03)
