Credit Card Approvals with BK

Discussion in 'Credit Talk' started by NanaC, Jul 21, 2001.

  1. jenz

    jenz Well-Known Member

    BK friendly accounts

    i know you can't get anything (auto, credit card, etc)from USBank if there is a hint of BK on your credit reports.
     
  2. NanaC

    NanaC Well-Known Member

    Re: BK friendly accounts

    Oh, thanks for the info, Jenz..mind if I ask how you know for sure? (not doubting..just like to know for my own curiosity!) :)
     
  3. jenz

    jenz Well-Known Member

    Re: BK friendly accounts

    i don't work for USBank, but i am in the industry. over the years i have worked for several finance companies and i have kept in contact w/previous coworkers who have moved to other companies and gotten to know their friends at those companies. it just spirals from there. i think i know someone at every major finance company, insurance company and CRA's...LOL
     
  4. NanaC

    NanaC Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: BK friendly accounts

    Wow..that's awesome....for us!! :) :) :) Thanks for sharing..I'll update the list today!
     
  5. NanaC

    NanaC Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: BK friendly accounts

    Originally posted by NanaC
    BK FRIENDLY CREDITORS

    Compiled by NanaC


    Clarifications: Listings based on earliest receipt of credit. Occasionally, something may appear to be listed twice. This results from the credit being somehow different, for example, secured and unsecured, credit limits, etc. PFB = Planet FeedBack


    STARTER BK CARDS: score bad.
    1. Household - unsecured 300 - 5 mos., score about 560 ( www.householdbank.com/hb/CustomerCa...direct=HomePage )
    2. Cap1 - Secured and Unsecured ( www.capitalone.com )
    3. Orchard - Secured ( www.orchardbank.com/care/CustomerCa...direct=HomePage )
    4. American Online Secured Visa ( www.apbank.com/021_scc.html )
    5. Mazda (Ford) - 1 day post BK13 - auto loan
    6. Kay Jewelers - $2000 - 1 year post BK, score about 540
    (www.kayjewelers.com)

    6 MOS - 1 YEAR REBUILDING CREDIT: score low 600s
    1. Cap1 - unsecured gold 500 ( www.capitalone.com )
    2. Orchard - unsecured $500 ( www.orchardbank.com/care/CustomerCa...direct=HomePage )
    3. Target Guest Card- unsecured 200 (target.com/common/financialservices/apply_online.jhtml)
    4. First Premier - $200 ( www.credit-cards-s.com/premier.asp )
    5. Citifinancial Mortgage - 6 mths post - 9% ( www.citifinancial.com )
    6. Providian Platinum (www.providan.com)
    7. First National Bank Of Marin - $300 unsecured - low 600's (www.fnbmarin.com) - appears to be by mai offer only



    1-2 YEARS REBUILDING: score mid 600s
    1. AT&T Wireless - No deposit ( http://www.attws.com )
    2. Cap1 Platinum - unsecured 5000. Yes, platinum. started w/regular card and negotiated credit line to platinum. (Wow!) ( www.capitalone.com )
    3. Cross Country Bank Visa - unsecured - $300, then $600, then $1250 over time. * ( www.crosscountrybank.com )
    4. Cross Country Bank MC - unsecured - $350 * ( www.crosscountrybank.com )
    5. Dillards - unsecured - $500 ( www.dillards.com/cca/CreditCardApplication.jsp )
    6. Circuit City â?? unsecured -$2000 ( http://www.circuitcity.com )
    7. Western Security Bank - secured ( www.westernsecuritybank.com )
    8. Direct Merchants Bank $1001 (Semi-secured) - pre-approved mailings only ( www.directmerchantsbank.com )
    9. Sprint PCS - $200 Assigned Spending Limit ( www.sprint.com )
    10. Newport News/Spiegals/Eddie Bauer ( www.spiegals.com/home.asp )
    11. Merrick - $1000, about 650 FICO (www.applymerrick.com)



    2+ Years Rebuilding: score low to mid 600's:
    1. Aspire - unsecured - $500 ( www.compucredit.com/pdcts.html )
    2. Voicestream - No deposit ( www.voicestream.com )
    3. Bank One Checking Account with Debit Card after 5 months usage ( www.bankone.com )
    4. Mortgage Received (No specific name as more than one loan was found by those reporting receipt of mortgage loan.)
    5. Nordstrom - suggest not applying on-line ( www.nordstrom.nordstrom.com )
    6. First N.A. Nat. Bank - 3 years (www.fnanb.com)
    7. Citibank MC- will consider post-7 years ( www.citibank.com )
    8. Nextel - must be 7 years post BK, no dep. ( www.nextel.com )
    9. Exxon - 4 years ( www.exxon.com )
    10. Home Depot - 4 years ( www.homedepot.com ) **
    11. Bloomingdales - 3 years ( www.bloomingdales.com )
    12. Verizon - no deposit ( www.verizonwireless.com )
    13. Washington Mutual Visa secured card issued by Citibank N.A. South Dakota ( www.washingtonmutual.com )
    14. Mervyn's ** ( www.mervyns.com )
    15. Generations (6 year mark!) - $1000 ( www.genscu.com )
    16. Target Visa - mid 600's required ( www.target.com )
    17. Lowes - 3+ years ( www.lowes.com )
    18. Washington Mutual Mortgage - 3+ years ( www.wamuhomeloans.com )
    19. Nordstrom - 5+ years (www. Nordstrom.com)
    20. Wescom Credit Union - 5+ years ( www.wescom.org )
    21. First Nationwide Mortgage - 5 years ( www.firstnationwide.com )
    22. Dell - $1500 - 5+ years ( www.dell.com )
    23. Nissan Lease - 6+ years (Please provide link if known.)
    24. Phillips 66 - 7.5 years ( www.phillips66.com )
    25. Ford Credit - 5 years ( www.fordcredit.com )
    26. Diamond Shamrock - 6.5 yrs ( www.valero.com )
    27. Menard's Big Card (Conseco) - $3000 - 5+ years ( www.menards.com )
    28. Capital One Auto Finance -14 % interest, score approximately 650 - ( www.capitalone.com/capitaloneplace/...id=2000bann0202 )
    29. JCB Card - CE642 (www.jcbusa.com)
    30. Union Plus - initial rejection, then approved on PFB reconsideration (www.unionplus.com)**
    31. Corvette Mastercard - 7 years post (was not in dispute when pulled)- score 678 with 4 CA's in dispute when pulled - $1500 - (www.household.com/corp/hipf_credit_card_select.jsp)**


    Special Considerations-please consider these with a cautious mindset as these are not based on actual approvals but information gathered through CSR's, etc.:
    1. Bank of America - will consider post-BK if you have established credit and can show unusual circimstances (business loss, medical, etc.). Customer service rep reports Secured considered 5-years post BK, Unsecured 7-years post BK.
    2. Citibank MC- will consider post-BK after 7 years
    3. Citibank Diners Club - will consider post-BK if you have established credit and can show unusual circimstances (business loss, medical, etc.)
    4. Federated (Pres. Club Visa)- 3 years post BK was able to override with explanation and good (>680) score
    5. Federated (Macy's) Store Card - 2 years post-BK was able to override with explanation.

    Rejections (BK Unfriendly):
    ** Seen on both lists

    1. Lowe's (MB)
    2. Home Depot (MB) **
    3. Walmart
    4. Mervyns **
    5. Exxon/Mobile **
    6. Amex Green
    7. Best Buy (Household)-Recently confirmed letter due to bankruptcy Ch 13 6.5
    years
    8. Citgo
    9. Amex Optima Secured
    10. Home Depot
    11. CitiBank
    12. Associates: Citgo (try manual 24 ms+, 3 good lines)
    13. First USA (try manual 5+ years discharge)
    14. Bank of America
    15. Sears
    16. Fleet
    17. First USA
    18. Mens Wearhouse
    19. Monogram Bank = MB **
    20. Amex LOC
    21. Juniper
    22. Chase Manhattan
    23. Target Visa
    24. Corvette Mastercard**
    25. Target with recent BK discharge within 4 months**
    26. UnionPlus**
    27. GM Card
    28. Conoco
    29. Newport News/Spiegals/Eddie Bauer **
    30. Wells Fargo Secured
    31. WFNNB
    32. Circuit City **
    33. J.C. Penney
    34. Kohl's
    35. USBank


    Smart Suggestions:
    1) Try Credit Unions
    2) Ford is BK friendly
    (updated 1/4/04)
     
  6. Brad J

    Brad J Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: BK friendly accounts

    When you say finance company, does that include other traditional banks (BofA, Citi, etc)?.

    When I think of Finance companies, I think of Household and not Banks which I believe USBank is a bank.
     
  7. jenz

    jenz Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: BK friendly accounts

    when i say finance companies i meant any company that does lending. i should have said lender or creditor, my apologies.
     
  8. Brad J

    Brad J Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: BK friendly accounts

    OK Thanks
     
  9. Butch

    Butch Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: BK friendly accounts

    Thanks again Nana.

    Awesome job.

    :)

    .
     
  10. NanaC

    NanaC Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: BK friendly accounts

    Awww, Butch..thanks..I'm glad to give back a little of all that I got from CN..:)
     
  11. NanaC

    NanaC Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: BK friendly accounts

    bump...cuz I feel like it
     
  12. NanaC

    NanaC Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: BK friendly accounts

    No updates folks?
     
  13. Psukid99

    Psukid99 Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: BK friendly accounts

    Got approved for GM extended family card with almost post bk ch 7 of 5 years.

    Gives you 1% cash($50 increments) or GM dollars
     
  14. NanaC

    NanaC Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: Re: BK friendly accounts

    Thanks! Was your BK in dispute at the time?
     
  15. Psukid99

    Psukid99 Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: Re: BK friendly accounts

    nope.
     
  16. NanaC

    NanaC Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: Re: BK friendly accounts

    PSU kid..what was your score?
     
  17. NanaC

    NanaC Well-Known Member

    Updated List

    Originally posted by NanaC
    BK FRIENDLY CREDITORS

    Compiled by NanaC
    Updated info in bold


    Clarifications: Listings based on earliest receipt of credit. Occasionally, something may appear to be listed twice. This results from the credit being somehow different, for example, secured and unsecured, credit limits, etc. PFB = Planet FeedBack


    STARTER BK CARDS: score bad.
    1. Household - unsecured 300 - 5 mos., score about 560 ( www.householdbank.com/hb/CustomerCa...direct=HomePage )
    2. Cap1 - Secured and Unsecured ( www.capitalone.com )
    3. Orchard - Secured ( www.orchardbank.com/care/CustomerCa...direct=HomePage )
    4. American Online Secured Visa ( www.apbank.com/021_scc.html )
    5. Mazda (Ford) - 1 day post BK13 - auto loan
    6. Kay Jewelers - $2000 - 1 year post BK, score about 540
    (www.kayjewelers.com)

    6 MOS - 1 YEAR REBUILDING CREDIT: score low 600s
    1. Cap1 - unsecured gold 500 ( www.capitalone.com )
    2. Orchard - unsecured $500 ( www.orchardbank.com/care/CustomerCa...direct=HomePage )
    3. Target Guest Card- unsecured 200 (target.com/common/financialservices/apply_online.jhtml)
    4. First Premier - $200 ( www.credit-cards-s.com/premier.asp )
    5. Citifinancial Mortgage - 6 mths post - 9% ( www.citifinancial.com )
    6. Providian Platinum (www.providan.com)
    7. First National Bank Of Marin - $300 unsecured - low 600's (www.fnbmarin.com) - appears to be by mai offer only



    1-2 YEARS REBUILDING: score mid 600s
    1. AT&T Wireless - No deposit ( http://www.attws.com )
    2. Cap1 Platinum - unsecured 5000. Yes, platinum. started w/regular card and negotiated credit line to platinum. (Wow!) ( www.capitalone.com )
    3. Cross Country Bank Visa - unsecured - $300, then $600, then $1250 over time. * ( www.crosscountrybank.com )
    4. Cross Country Bank MC - unsecured - $350 * ( www.crosscountrybank.com )
    5. Dillards - unsecured - $500 ( www.dillards.com/cca/CreditCardApplication.jsp )
    6. Circuit City â?? unsecured -$2000 ( http://www.circuitcity.com )
    7. Western Security Bank - secured ( www.westernsecuritybank.com )
    8. Direct Merchants Bank $1001 (Semi-secured) - pre-approved mailings only ( www.directmerchantsbank.com )
    9. Sprint PCS - $200 Assigned Spending Limit ( www.sprint.com )
    10. Newport News/Spiegals/Eddie Bauer ( www.spiegals.com/home.asp )
    11. Merrick - $1000, about 650 FICO (www.applymerrick.com)



    2+ Years Rebuilding: score low to mid 600's:
    1. Aspire - unsecured - $500 ( www.compucredit.com/pdcts.html )
    2. Voicestream - No deposit ( www.voicestream.com )
    3. Bank One Checking Account with Debit Card after 5 months usage ( www.bankone.com )
    4. Mortgage Received (No specific name as more than one loan was found by those reporting receipt of mortgage loan.)
    5. Nordstrom - suggest not applying on-line ( www.nordstrom.nordstrom.com )
    6. First N.A. Nat. Bank - 3 years (www.fnanb.com)
    7. Citibank MC- will consider post-7 years ( www.citibank.com )
    8. Nextel - must be 7 years post BK, no dep. ( www.nextel.com )
    9. Exxon - 4 years ( www.exxon.com )
    10. Home Depot - 4 years ( www.homedepot.com ) **
    11. Bloomingdales - 3 years ( www.bloomingdales.com )
    12. Verizon - no deposit ( www.verizonwireless.com )
    13. Washington Mutual Visa secured card issued by Citibank N.A. South Dakota ( www.washingtonmutual.com )
    14. Mervyn's ** ( www.mervyns.com )
    15. Generations (6 year mark!) - $1000 ( www.genscu.com )
    16. Target Visa - mid 600's required ( www.target.com )
    17. Lowes - 3+ years ( www.lowes.com )
    18. Washington Mutual Mortgage - 3+ years ( www.wamuhomeloans.com )
    19. Nordstrom - 5+ years (www. Nordstrom.com)
    20. Wescom Credit Union - 5+ years ( www.wescom.org )
    21. First Nationwide Mortgage - 5 years ( www.firstnationwide.com )
    22. Dell - $1500 - 5+ years ( www.dell.com )
    23. Nissan Lease - 6+ years (Please provide link if known.)
    24. Phillips 66 - 7.5 years ( www.phillips66.com )
    25. Ford Credit - 5 years ( www.fordcredit.com )
    26. Diamond Shamrock - 6.5 yrs ( www.valero.com )
    27. Menard's Big Card (Conseco) - $3000 - 5+ years ( www.menards.com )
    28. Capital One Auto Finance -14 % interest, score approximately 650 - ( www.capitalone.com/capitaloneplace/...id=2000bann0202 )
    29. JCB Card - CE642 (www.jcbusa.com)
    30. Union Plus - initial rejection, then approved on PFB reconsideration (www.unionplus.com)**
    31. Corvette Mastercard - 7 years post (was not in dispute when pulled)- score 678 with 4 CA's in dispute when pulled - $1500 - (www.household.com/corp/hipf_credit_card_select.jsp)**


    Special Considerations-please consider these with a cautious mindset as these are not based on actual approvals but information gathered through CSR's, etc.:
    1. Bank of America - will consider post-BK if you have established credit and can show unusual circimstances (business loss, medical, etc.). Customer service rep reports Secured considered 5-years post BK, Unsecured 7-years post BK.
    2. Citibank MC- will consider post-BK after 7 years
    3. Citibank Diners Club - will consider post-BK if you have established credit and can show unusual circimstances (business loss, medical, etc.)
    4. Federated (Pres. Club Visa)- 3 years post BK was able to override with explanation and good (>680) score
    5. Federated (Macy's) Store Card - 2 years post-BK was able to override with explanation.

    Rejections (BK Unfriendly):
    ** Seen on both lists

    1. Lowe's (MB)
    2. Home Depot (MB) **
    3. Walmart
    4. Mervyns **
    5. Exxon/Mobile **
    6. Amex Green
    7. Best Buy (Household)-Recently confirmed letter due to bankruptcy Ch 13 6.5
    years
    8. Citgo
    9. Amex Optima Secured
    10. Home Depot
    11. CitiBank
    12. Associates: Citgo (try manual 24 ms+, 3 good lines)
    13. First USA (try manual 5+ years discharge)
    14. Bank of America
    15. Sears
    16. Fleet
    17. First USA
    18. Mens Wearhouse
    19. Monogram Bank = MB **
    20. Amex LOC
    21. Juniper
    22. Chase Manhattan
    23. Target Visa
    24. Corvette Mastercard**
    25. Target with recent BK discharge within 4 months**
    26. UnionPlus**
    27. GM Card
    28. Conoco
    29. Newport News/Spiegals/Eddie Bauer **
    30. Wells Fargo Secured
    31. WFNNB
    32. Circuit City **
    33. J.C. Penney
    34. Kohl's
    35. USBank
    36. Netbank


    Smart Suggestions:
    1) Try Credit Unions
    2) Ford is BK friendly
    (updated 1/23/04)
     
  18. NanaC

    NanaC Well-Known Member

    Updated List

    Originally posted by NanaC
    BK FRIENDLY CREDITORS

    Compiled by NanaC
    Updated info in bold


    Clarifications: Listings based on earliest receipt of credit. Occasionally, something may appear to be listed twice. This results from the credit being somehow different, for example, secured and unsecured, credit limits, etc. PFB = Planet FeedBack


    STARTER BK CARDS: score bad.
    1. Household - unsecured 300 - 5 mos., score about 560 ( www.householdbank.com/hb/CustomerCa...direct=HomePage )
    2. Cap1 - Secured and Unsecured ( www.capitalone.com )
    3. Orchard - Secured ( www.orchardbank.com/care/CustomerCa...direct=HomePage )
    4. American Online Secured Visa ( www.apbank.com/021_scc.html )
    5. Mazda (Ford) - 1 day post BK13 - auto loan
    6. Kay Jewelers - $2000 - 1 year post BK, score about 540
    (www.kayjewelers.com)

    6 MOS - 1 YEAR REBUILDING CREDIT: score low 600s
    1. Cap1 - unsecured gold 500 ( www.capitalone.com )
    2. Orchard - unsecured $500 ( www.orchardbank.com/care/CustomerCa...direct=HomePage )
    3. Target Guest Card- unsecured 200 (target.com/common/financialservices/apply_online.jhtml)
    4. First Premier - $200 ( www.credit-cards-s.com/premier.asp )
    5. Citifinancial Mortgage - 6 mths post - 9% ( www.citifinancial.com )
    6. Providian Platinum (www.providan.com)
    7. First National Bank Of Marin - $300 unsecured - low 600's (www.fnbmarin.com) - appears to be by mai offer only



    1-2 YEARS REBUILDING: score mid 600s
    1. AT&T Wireless - No deposit ( http://www.attws.com )
    2. Cap1 Platinum - unsecured 5000. Yes, platinum. started w/regular card and negotiated credit line to platinum. (Wow!) ( www.capitalone.com )
    3. Cross Country Bank Visa - unsecured - $300, then $600, then $1250 over time. * ( www.crosscountrybank.com )
    4. Cross Country Bank MC - unsecured - $350 * ( www.crosscountrybank.com )
    5. Dillards - unsecured - $500 ( www.dillards.com/cca/CreditCardApplication.jsp )
    6. Circuit City â?? unsecured -$2000 ( http://www.circuitcity.com )
    7. Western Security Bank - secured ( www.westernsecuritybank.com )
    8. Direct Merchants Bank $1001 (Semi-secured) - pre-approved mailings only ( www.directmerchantsbank.com )
    9. Sprint PCS - $200 Assigned Spending Limit ( www.sprint.com )
    10. Newport News/Spiegals/Eddie Bauer ( www.spiegals.com/home.asp )
    11. Merrick - $1000, about 650 FICO (www.applymerrick.com)



    2+ Years Rebuilding: score low to mid 600's:
    1. Aspire - unsecured - $500 ( www.compucredit.com/pdcts.html )
    2. Voicestream - No deposit ( www.voicestream.com )
    3. Bank One Checking Account with Debit Card after 5 months usage ( www.bankone.com )
    4. Mortgage Received (No specific name as more than one loan was found by those reporting receipt of mortgage loan.)
    5. Nordstrom - suggest not applying on-line ( www.nordstrom.nordstrom.com )
    6. First N.A. Nat. Bank - 3 years (www.fnanb.com)
    7. Citibank MC- will consider post-7 years ( www.citibank.com )
    8. Nextel - must be 7 years post BK, no dep. ( www.nextel.com )
    9. Exxon - 4 years ( www.exxon.com )
    10. Home Depot - 4 years ( www.homedepot.com ) **
    11. Bloomingdales - 3 years ( www.bloomingdales.com )
    12. Verizon - no deposit ( www.verizonwireless.com )
    13. Washington Mutual Visa secured card issued by Citibank N.A. South Dakota ( www.washingtonmutual.com )
    14. Mervyn's ** ( www.mervyns.com )
    15. Generations (6 year mark!) - $1000 ( www.genscu.com )
    16. Target Visa - mid 600's required ( www.target.com )
    17. Lowes - 3+ years ( www.lowes.com )
    18. Washington Mutual Mortgage - 3+ years ( www.wamuhomeloans.com )
    19. Nordstrom - 5+ years (www. Nordstrom.com)
    20. Wescom Credit Union - 5+ years ( www.wescom.org )
    21. First Nationwide Mortgage - 5 years ( www.firstnationwide.com )
    22. Dell - $1500 - 5+ years ( www.dell.com )
    23. Nissan Lease - 6+ years (Please provide link if known.)
    24. Phillips 66 - 7.5 years ( www.phillips66.com )
    25. Ford Credit - 5 years ( www.fordcredit.com )
    26. Diamond Shamrock - 6.5 yrs ( www.valero.com )
    27. Menard's Big Card (Conseco) - $3000 - 5+ years ( www.menards.com )
    28. Capital One Auto Finance -14 % interest, score approximately 650 - ( www.capitalone.com/capitaloneplace/...id=2000bann0202 )
    29. JCB Card - CE642 (www.jcbusa.com)
    30. Union Plus - initial rejection, then approved on PFB reconsideration (www.unionplus.com)**
    31. Corvette Mastercard - 7 years post (was not in dispute when pulled)- score 678 with 4 CA's in dispute when pulled - $1500 - (www.household.com/corp/hipf_credit_card_select.jsp)**


    Special Considerations-please consider these with a cautious mindset as these are not based on actual approvals but information gathered through CSR's, etc.:
    1. Bank of America - will consider post-BK if you have established credit and can show unusual circimstances (business loss, medical, etc.). Customer service rep reports Secured considered 5-years post BK, Unsecured 7-years post BK.
    2. Citibank MC- will consider post-BK after 7 years
    3. Citibank Diners Club - will consider post-BK if you have established credit and can show unusual circimstances (business loss, medical, etc.)
    4. Federated (Pres. Club Visa)- 3 years post BK was able to override with explanation and good (>680) score
    5. Federated (Macy's) Store Card - 2 years post-BK was able to override with explanation.

    Rejections (BK Unfriendly):
    ** Seen on both lists

    1. Lowe's (MB)
    2. Home Depot (MB) **
    3. Walmart
    4. Mervyns **
    5. Exxon/Mobile **
    6. Amex Green
    7. Best Buy (Household)-Recently confirmed letter due to bankruptcy Ch 13 6.5
    years
    8. Citgo
    9. Amex Optima Secured
    10. Home Depot
    11. CitiBank
    12. Associates: Citgo (try manual 24 ms+, 3 good lines)
    13. First USA (try manual 5+ years discharge)
    14. Bank of America
    15. Sears
    16. Fleet
    17. First USA
    18. Mens Wearhouse
    19. Monogram Bank = MB **
    20. Amex LOC
    21. Juniper
    22. Chase Manhattan
    23. Target Visa
    24. Corvette Mastercard**
    25. Target with recent BK discharge within 4 months**
    26. UnionPlus**
    27. GM Card
    28. Conoco
    29. Newport News/Spiegals/Eddie Bauer **
    30. Wells Fargo Secured
    31. WFNNB
    32. Circuit City **
    33. J.C. Penney
    34. Kohl's
    35. USBank
    36. Netbank
    37. Discover



    Smart Suggestions:
    1) Try Credit Unions
    2) Ford is BK friendly
    (updated 1/23/04)

    ~NanaC~
     
  19. Butch

    Butch Well-Known Member

    Updated List

    Nana does it again.

    ;)

    .
     
  20. NanaC

    NanaC Well-Known Member

    Re: Updated List

    :) :) :)
     

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