That seems impressive Sam. How long have you been in business and were you using Amex personally prior to getting those biz cards? My brother was using his skymiles (5k) personally and he has excellent credit, good income and biz income and his initial open was 5k also. Do you think that's why? (B/c he only had 5 k with them to begin with?) Then they tell him he has to wait 6 mos for an increase.