Experian is rigging our files

Discussion in 'Credit Talk' started by Marie, Dec 10, 2001.

  1. Marie

    Marie Well-Known Member

    to have lower scores. I think this is the worst one yet.

    Here are the facts: If you have any account (eg: I have Cap1s) that does not report the credit line but instead reports the high credit:

    Experian, on their own, makes the sin worse. If your balance is increasing they don't even have the dignity to make you look 100% of your credit line. Instead, you look OVER THE LIMIT.

    Let me give you my examples:
    I have a 5000 limit Cap1. My highest balance to date is 2000. I charged 3000 and my statement cycles.

    My credit expert shows this: High credit 2000, current balance 3000. I'm 150% and a full 1000 over my limit according to Experian.

    I thought this might be a credit expert goof so I ordered a hard copy and Merry Christmas to me, it's the same.

    So, if you have any account where the credit limit isn't showing and your balance is increasing, Experian is screwing you. They could at least have the courtesy to make me look 3000 out of 3000.

    Or they could do the correct thing and make me look 3000 out of 5000. But no, I'm now falsely over the limit.

    This can only be Experian. Your "high credit" updates the next month. So next month I'll have a high credit of 3000. But what if I charge and pay 3500... You guessed it, I'm over again! This alone is worth a lawsuit from everybody.

    I dare say, even though he's on a gag order, that this may be part of how Lizardking got 2500 out of Experian... it certainly is a big enough grievance to get money for it. I wonder the effect on my score since I have 3 Cap1s all increasing in high balance this month...

    Just more food for lawsuits.
     
  2. Hermit5

    Hermit5 Well-Known Member

    I have a similar reading on my Experian. Great food for thought.

    Thanks
     
  3. breeze

    breeze Well-Known Member

    Mine was the same way. No longer - no balance on Cap One because of it. Wonder what zero balance does with this scenario, hehe?
     
  4. GHONEYHONE

    GHONEYHONE Well-Known Member

    omg i was just about to launch a dipute is says i am 200 over on my cap 1 and this is not true how do you correct this???
     
  5. Marie

    Marie Well-Known Member

    you won't. you'll dispute your credit line. it'll come back and say verified... and that's it. they haven't corrected anyone's file as of yet that I know of...

    so then you request a procedural description for the investigation and they won't send it... you can do it again for good measure if you want but then you can sue them for FCRA violations...

    or you, in one month, max your balance and then pay it off the next month. Your max balance substitutes for the credit line and your ratios show by your actions...
    but as your balance increases you'll really pay in fico score for a month.

    If you submit your statement as proof they'll ignore it and say they don't accept info from consumers... another FCRA violation by the way. at 1k each these really can add up to a great new year :)

    sorry for the news but if you get any other results I'll eat my power cord.
     
  6. GEORGE

    GEORGE Well-Known Member

    ...Or you can do a "GEORGE" and tell them to state the CREDIT LIMIT, because it is not COMPLETE OR ACCURATE without it and they will REMOVE YOUR AMEX BLUE account instead!!!!!!!
     
  7. Marie

    Marie Well-Known Member

    ah yes, pulling a George :)

    good way to hide available credit. maybe you should dispute your balances on all your cards. the bureaus won't update them they'll delete the tradelines completely if they're positive...

    then you'll look like you have less credit, you apply for new credit and about the time you're approved the monthly tape updates will hit on your old accounts and you're back where you started but with new tradelines...

    well, unless your name has a 'george' in it. ;0
     
  8. Marie

    Marie Well-Known Member

    Honestly, I think this isn't an individual issue, I think it's a class action lawsuit waiting to happen.

    think of all the people negatively affected and not knowing it.
     
  9. GEORGE

    GEORGE Well-Known Member

    I DISPUTED the N/A CREDIT LIMIT on EXPERIAN (FIRST USA) and they came back VERIFIED!!!

    Tried to DISPUTE them again today, and it REFUSED the DISPUTE!!!

    SO ALL YOU PEOPLE WHO HAVE CREDIT CARDS (N/A) IS A CREDIT LIMIT, NOW!!!

    SO WHEN YOU GET DENIED FOR A CHARGE AT THE STORE...CALL UP THE CREDIT CARD COMPANY AND TELL THEM YOU HAVE ONE OF THOSE (N/A) CREDIT LIMITS!!! YOU THOUGHT YOU HAD A CENTURIAN PLUS CARD WITH THE UNLIMITED CREDIT LINE...$1,000,000 MINIMUM.
     
  10. SEAN

    SEAN Well-Known Member

    Good point Marie, class action lawsuit. I closed both of my cap one accounts because of that fact.

    Sean
     
  11. Marie

    Marie Well-Known Member

    It used to be that you were at 100% which my common sense found ludicrous... but over your limit.

    How much more willful does the violation have to be before the FTC steps in?
     
  12. lbrown59

    lbrown59 Well-Known Member

    Which rolls fico scores.
    So what we have is quite a Rigmarole!
     
  13. superadman

    superadman Banned

    all of this has me rushing to log onto my credit expert and see what MY cap1 account is looking like...
     
  14. superadman

    superadman Banned

    My high balance is only $625, but my credit limit is NA. NA?!! I don't think Experian is the culprit, Capital One is probably not reporting the credit limit. We do need to put the pressure on them because this is DEFINITELY dragging down our scores
     
  15. lucy

    lucy Well-Known Member

    Not only Experian, so is Equifax. I just checked mine. Shows the credit limit on Capital One as $440 and the balance as $469, the limit is actually $800.
    And on the other Cap 1 card as $245 and $245, the credit limit is $500

    Ah well, as with my previous message about Equifax and GMAC, I am fed up!
     
  16. Marie

    Marie Well-Known Member

    I agree Cap1 should have to report limits...

    but who is their agreement with? Oh yes, Experian et al.


    My real point is not that limits aren't reported and they should be, but that Experian compounds the problem by updating the "high credit" amount the month following a cycle.

    Eg: if your previous high limit was 500 and in

    Jan : High limit 1000 bal 1000, Experian shows it as
    High credit 500, Balance 1000.

    If the next month you have 0, then you're
    Feb: High credit 1000, Balance 0

    if the next month you're 700, then you're
    March: High credit 1000, balance 700

    But if you now reset your high limit because you charge more than 1000... say 1500, you're

    April: High credit 1000, balance 1500

    they don't even make your high credit change during the update, it lags a month *cycle*.

    The worst it should be is that you're at 100% of your limit:

    Eg:
    April: High credit 1500, balance 1500


    which is still ludicrous if your limit is 5000. Instead of a sweet ratio, yours sucks. But with Experian (over the others) EXPERIAN makes it worse by updating your high credit column a month later.

    I've tested this for several months now, and I'm positive on this one. It's the basis of a new, Dec lawsuit they're getting.

    Also, remember: if you want to correct a smaller problem, make Cap1 report limits.

    To correct the real problem: make all CRAs acknowledge that complete, accurate tradelines of course include the credit limits.

    I think this is the worst attrocity there is going on in the CRAs because they KNOW if your balance is increasing they're screwing your scores and it's all internal EXPERIAN.

    What needs to happen is everyone affected needs to sue for 1000 punitives per tradeline plus actual damages, don't settle, and take their money.
     
  17. Marie

    Marie Well-Known Member

    Remember when you want to sue them for this:

    apply for something and get turned down. ask for an increase and get declined.

    You must have actual damages to have real standing to sue... and your report has to be seen by a creditor to count as a report (you looking at your report is NOT the definition of consumer report as per case law).

    then sue them for FCRA violations per tradeline.

    there's no real way to make you whole, although normally the tradeline is corrected. Unless they hard correct the credit limit... then there's no real remedy... which is SO odd...

    but you've got a slam dunk on FCRA violations. Talk about incorrect and inaccurate. Morons.
     
  18. GEORGE

    GEORGE Well-Known Member

    THE CRA'S MUST REPORT "COMPLETE AND ACCURATE" INFORMATION...N/A IS NEITHER!!!
     

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