FCBA - What's the point?!

Discussion in 'Credit Talk' started by PAE, Sep 25, 2002.

  1. PAE

    PAE Well-Known Member

    If the bill is $400 wrong they only have to forfeit $50?????

    WTFFFMFMFMFF (sorry)!

    PAE
     
  2. humblemarc

    humblemarc Well-Known Member

    no,
    it means if the bill is $400, if they don't resolve the dispute within 60 days, they can only hold you responsible for $50.

    humblemarc
     
  3. PAE

    PAE Well-Known Member

    Read it again man! it says that the creditor is obligated to forfeit up to $50.
     
  4. humblemarc

    humblemarc Well-Known Member

    i'm sorry.
    i have to disagee with you. Whenever you sign a CC agreement, it states that anything you dispute under $50 can not be refunded ,if disputed, especially, across state lines. This is a paraphrase of the FCBA.

    humblemarc
     
  5. PAE

    PAE Well-Known Member

    Well, I know that. but look at the wording of the act.....

    it doesn't make sense.

    it looks like they only have to forfeit $50


    *sigh*

    maybe I should split that $400 into 8 letters?
     
  6. PAE

    PAE Well-Known Member

    Oh hey, anyone want to help with the wording of the letter?

    It's to voicestream

    I have the $39.99 plan with 600 minutes and no roaming or long distance charges. I've never used more than 200 minutes in a month but every month my bill is like $450


    I just called and got the address of the billing dispute dept and the director's name ;)

    I'll prolly write the letter tomorrow night if I get home from work at a reasonable hour.....

    work sux, it keeps me away from CN!
     
  7. Butch

    Butch Well-Known Member

    How long has that been goin on?
     
  8. sassyinaz

    sassyinaz Well-Known Member

    PAE,

    That section you quoted above, you have to go back and read the subsections referred to, paragraph
    (2) of subsection (a) of this section -- it is specific to the amount of finance charges that have to be forfeited, not the amount of the disputed debt.

    Sassy
     
  9. PAE

    PAE Well-Known Member

    Butch - Since June/July. I've called every month, I'm tired of calling.

    Sassy - I kinda figured that, but it still doesn't read right..... I'm not disagreeing that the limit is $50, it just reads like it is under not over (or vice versa).

    Thanks for the replies fellow CNers

    any takers on the letter writing? I could use a few ideas. I'm too mad to write coherently!

    :)
     
  10. sassyinaz

    sassyinaz Well-Known Member

    LOL PAE,

    It does but it doesn't have anything to do with the disputed bill, just what they have to forfeit in finance charges, up to, for not following the process -- that's the built in penalty and their incentive for getting it right, even if they investigate and find out they are right, they still don't get the finance charges if they don't follow the process, miss a timeframe.

    It's funky wording though and a well placed comma.

    Sassy
     
  11. lbrown59

    lbrown59 Well-Known Member

    Close Sassy but still a little off target.
    What it means is they cannot collect the first 50 dollars of the disputed amount if they don't follow the procedures, even if they are correct.
     
  12. lbrown59

    lbrown59 Well-Known Member

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    No if they are wrong they loose 400.
    If they are right but didn't follow procurers they loose 50 and you pay 350
    If they are right and followed procedures they loose 0 and you pay 400

     
  13. lbrown59

    lbrown59 Well-Known Member

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    NO Again
    In this case they can only hold him responsible for $0.oo.

    You have this confused with another 50 dollar situation.
     
  14. lbrown59

    lbrown59 Well-Known Member

    Your're basically in the right church but in the wrong pew.
    What you are referring to is only applicable to reporting a lost or stolen card,or the purchase of unsatisfactory merchandise.
     
  15. sassyinaz

    sassyinaz Well-Known Member

    It does but it doesn't have anything to do with the disputed bill, just what they have to forfeit in finance charges, up to, for not following the process -- that's the built in penalty and their incentive for getting it right, even if they investigate and find out they are right, they still don't get the finance charges if they don't follow the process, miss a timeframe.

    It's funky wording though and a well placed comma.

    Sassy

    Close Sassy but still a little off target.
    What it means is they cannot collect the first 50 dollars of the disputed amount if they don't follow the procedures, even if they are correct.

    No if they are wrong they loose 400.
    If they are right but didn't follow procurers they loose 50 and you pay 350
    If they are right and followed procedures they loose 0 and you pay 400


    LB,

    I had it in my head that the finance charges were separate from the amount due, instead of them being included in the total amout (using your example: $400.00 and $50.00 finance charges = $450.00).

    With your example, $400.00 and $50.00 of the $400.00 being finance charges.

    If the procedures aren't followed the finance charges are forfeited, up to $50.00.

    So, because they didn't follow the procedures, you now don't have to pay the finance charges that were included in the total amount due -- they eat it as a penalty and reduce your total amount due.

    Thank you for your clarity.

    Sassy
     

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