Federal Banks Can't Loan Credit

Discussion in 'Credit Talk' started by courtney, Feb 16, 2004.

  1. Hedwig

    Hedwig Well-Known Member

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    And I don't know that loaning me thousands of dollars of unsecured money is putting me or my money at risk.

    If they give me thousands unsecured at a low enough rate, I'll take all I can get--and invest it elsewhere.

    Just yesterday, there was mention of 0.9% balance transfer money. So, if I borrow "thousands" (as many as they'll let me have) and invest it at even 2%, it looks like I'm making money.

    How is that NOT in my best interest? Making money off of someone else's money? That's how people get wealthy.
     
  2. Hedwig

    Hedwig Well-Known Member

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    Also, you keep referring to "lending credit." I keep telling you, they aren't lending credit, they're lending MONEY. So now you say they can't lend money if it's unsecured.

    What is it?
     
  3. lbrown59

    lbrown59 Well-Known Member

    George! you should know better than to tell someone on creditnet to [ignore] ANYTHING.

    (I can see LBrown59 now.....)


    jenz

    ><- <>- ><- <>
    I had forgotten about the ignore thread
    Thanks for the reminder



    LB59 is taking a NAP

    SHHHHHH

    GEORGE
    I have an alarm clock - Brand name ; jenz
    Are they available at Wall Mart? LOL
     
  4. jenz

    jenz Well-Known Member

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    i aim to please and i am the best alarm clock model out there

    LOL
     
  5. jenz

    jenz Well-Known Member

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    butch - did courtney ever take you up on your "challenge"? i'm interested to see the outcome.


    courtney - have you ever tried to send $1 to six people and then add your name to #6......? if your interested i have some land in florida to sell you....
     
  6. Hedwig

    Hedwig Well-Known Member

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    And I have a bridge in Brooklyn that's for sale, too. Or maybe some oceanfront property in Arizona.
     
  7. lbrown59

    lbrown59 Well-Known Member

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  8. lbrown59

    lbrown59 Well-Known Member

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    well you certainly are alarming that's for sure.
    L.O.L.
     
  9. jenz

    jenz Well-Known Member

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    i learned it by watching you!

    i must excel at everything - even if it means being alarming. i'm rather quite good at it.

    LOL
     
  10. lbrown59

    lbrown59 Well-Known Member

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    hain' ya tho?lol
     
  11. Butch

    Butch Well-Known Member

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    Hmmm ... thanx for the visual Jenz.

    :)~
     
  12. jenz

    jenz Well-Known Member

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    uhhhh, that wasn't what i meant!

    you guys and your dirty minds...i think you need a different message board for that...

    LOL
     
  13. courtney

    courtney Active Member

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    Here's something from 12 US CODE SECTION 24 which was used in my argument and won me seven arbitration awards.

    jenz - you sure do excel - at being ignorant about your legal rights. And Hedwig, What's that thing in your wallet? A money card? No, I think, umm, let me see...it's a CREDIT card! So I think, then, therefore, a bank is loaning me, huh, this is a tough one...UNSECURED CREDIT.

    Gotta go - I'm leaving for Florida. :)

    Seventh. To exercise by its board of directors or duly authorized officers or agents, subject to law, all such incidental powers as shall be necessary to carry on the business of banking; by discounting and negotiating promissory notes, drafts, bills of exchange, and other evidences of debt; by receiving deposits; by buying and selling exchange, coin, and bullion; by loaning money on personal security; and by obtaining, issuing, and circulating notes according to the provisions of title 62 of the Revised Statutes. The business of dealing in securities and stock by the association shall be limited to purchasing and selling such securities and stock without recourse, solely upon the order, and for the account of, customers, and in no case for its own account, and the association shall not underwrite any issue of securities or stock; Provided, That the association may purchase for its own account investment securities under such limitations and restrictions as the Comptroller of the Currency may by regulation prescribe. In no event shall the total amount of the investment securities of any one obligor or maker, held by the association for its own account, exceed at any time 10 per centum of its capital stock actually paid in and unimpaired and 10 per centum of its unimpaired surplus fund, except that this limitation shall not require any association to dispose of any securities lawfully held by it on August 23, 1935. As used in this section the term ''investment securities'' shall mean marketable obligations, evidencing indebtedness of any person, copartnership, association, or corporation in the form of bonds, notes and/or debentures commonly known as investment securities under such further definition of the term ''investment securities'' as may by regulation be prescribed by the Comptroller of the Currency. Except as hereinafter provided or otherwise permitted by law, nothing herein contained shall authorize the purchase by the association for its own account of any shares of stock of any corporation. The limitations and restrictions herein contained as to dealing in, underwriting and purchasing for its own account, investment securities shall not apply to obligations of the United States, or general obligations of any State or of any political subdivision thereof, or obligations of the Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority which are guaranteed by the Secretary of Transportation under section 9 of the National Capital Transportation Act of 1969, or obligations issued under authority of the Federal Farm Loan Act, as amended, or issued by the thirteen banks for cooperatives or any of them or the Federal Home Loan Banks, or obligations which are insured by the Secretary of Housing and Urban Development under title XI of the National Housing Act (12 U.S.C. 1749aaa et seq.) or obligations which are insured by the Secretary of Housing and Urban Development (hereinafter in this sentence referred to as the ''Secretary'') pursuant to section 207 of the National Housing Act (12 U.S.C. 1713), if the debentures to be issued in payment of such insured obligations are guaranteed as to principal and interest by the United States, or obligations, participations, or other instruments of or issued by the Federal National Mortgage Association, or the Government National Mortgage Association, or mortgages, obligations or other securities which are or ever have been sold by the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation pursuant to section 305 or section 306 of the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation Act (12 U.S.C. 1454 or 1455), or obligations of the Federal Financing Bank or obligations of the Environmental Financing Authority, or obligations or other instruments or securities of the Student Loan Marketing Association, or such obligations of any local public agency (as defined in section 110(h) of the Housing Act of 1949 (42 U.S.C. 1460(h))) as are secured by an agreement between the local public agency and the Secretary in which the local public agency agrees to borrow from said Secretary, and said Secretary agrees to lend to said local public agency, monies in an aggregate amount which (together with any other monies irrevocably committed to the payment of interest on such obligations) will suffice to pay, when due, the interest on and all installments (including the final installment) of the principal of such obligations, which monies under the terms of said agreement are required to be used for such payments, or such obligations of a public housing agency (as defined in the United States Housing Act of 1937, as amended (42 U.S.C. 1437 et seq.)) as are secured
     
  14. jenz

    jenz Well-Known Member

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    THAT was your argument!!!! LOL

    didn't you ever hear of the deregulation that occured in 1980?

    this code was created in the 1930's!!!

    oh boy...i will let someone else jump in and point out the difference between federal banks and FDIC, etc. as well as the other logistics. if the creditors did settle out with her it was probably because they PITIED her.
     
  15. Hedwig

    Hedwig Well-Known Member

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    And it may be a CREDIT card, but what does a credit card do? It allows you to BORROW MONEY without getting an approval each time.

    And did you notice the words in there (even though they are outdated) that states "other instruments of debt"?
     
  16. Hedwig

    Hedwig Well-Known Member

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    And some of them ARE MONEY cards. They're called debit cards, and they take MONEY out of your bank account.
     
  17. Hedwig

    Hedwig Well-Known Member

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    As I said earlier, a few courses in economics and finance!
     
  18. Hedwig

    Hedwig Well-Known Member

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    OK, you still think banks LOAN CREDIT. Let's follow this through. Here's the definition of credit: an amount or sum placed at a person's disposal by a bank.

    So, they're loaning an AMOUNT or SUM which is placed at a person's disposal by a bank.

    That sounds suspiciously like MONEY to me!!
     
  19. jenz

    jenz Well-Known Member

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    hedwig - she doesn't even know what she is talking about - here is the definition of federal bank from the chapter she quoted:

    There is hereby created a body corporate to be known as the Federal Financing Bank, which shall have succession until dissolved by an Act of Congress. The Bank shall be subject to the general supervision and direction of the Secretary of the Treasury. The Bank shall be an instrumentality of the United States Government and shall maintain such offices as may be necessary or appropriate in the conduct of its business.

    here is a link to cornell university which discusses it:
    http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/12/ch24.html

    GEEZ COURTNEY - HOW DID YOU GET THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO LOAN YOU MONEY?!?!
     
  20. jenz

    jenz Well-Known Member

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    say courtney - did you ever get that info to butch???


    btw - only lbrown can call me ignorant...
     

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