Finance Co. Loan drops score 33 pts

Discussion in 'Credit Talk' started by mrmagoo, Apr 21, 2003.

  1. mrmagoo

    mrmagoo Well-Known Member

    I recently went through a lean time and needed to get some $ from a finance co. (they sent me a pre-approval letter for $6K). My score plummeted 33 POINTS as soon as they reported!!!! What the.....!!?

    I have NO LATES, but a number of new accounts... is this normal!! I was about to apply for a significant sized equipment loan and now I am sure that this will squelch any chance of it.

    Ideas? Suggestions?

    Thanks.
     
  2. GEORGE

    GEORGE Well-Known Member

    "THEY" say a FINANCE COMPANY even PAID AS AGREED will hurt your score...I DON'T SEE THE LOGIC!!!

    It might be SUB-SUB PRIME...

    People who get SUB PRIME credit cards don't take a "HIT" for a PAID AS AGREED account!!!
     
  3. mrmagoo

    mrmagoo Well-Known Member

    Re: Finance Co. Loan drops score 33

    It is sub-prime, but I did not care since I only intend to have it for about 2-3 months. However, I did not think it would rock my score like this!!! [sigh]

    Do you think my score will rebound if I pay it in full? This SUCKS!
     
  4. mrmagoo

    mrmagoo Well-Known Member

    Well, it seems like the EVIL Experian is the only CRA that dropped it that far. EQU dropped it three points (although it was just reported yesterday, so maybe if there's a delay in the FICO calcs it will drop further).
     
  5. GEORGE

    GEORGE Well-Known Member

    It must be SUB-SUB PRIME!!!

    If paying it off does not help...ONLY TOTAL REMOVAL WILL WORK!!!
     
  6. mrmagoo

    mrmagoo Well-Known Member

    How does the FICO calcs know if it's prime, sub, or sub-sub prime?

    Anyone know if paying it to zero will make my scores rebound??

    I figured it would help to have an installment loan (it's my only installment type loan) and pay it timely and shorten the repay.

    [sigh]
     
  7. GEORGE

    GEORGE Well-Known Member

    F.I.C.O. decides how to calculate the account...

    It is amazing that you would have been better off with a SUB-PRIME
    credit card...(NO 33 PT "HIT")
     
  8. picantel

    picantel Well-Known Member

    I had posted on this before but loans from places like beneficial,citifinancial, american general, ect will hurt your score badly and will not go up at least right away even if you pay them.
     
  9. mrmagoo

    mrmagoo Well-Known Member

    [[I had posted on this before but loans from places like beneficial,citifinancial, american general, ect will hurt your score badly and will not go up at least right away even if you pay them.]]]

    You gotta be KIDDING ME! What gives with this?

    I need some procedural advice here....what should I do? Pay it, then disupute? Dispute, then pay it? Offer to pay the balance early (with some of the calculated interest) in return for a COMPLETE removal?

    HELP!
     
  10. GEORGE

    GEORGE Well-Known Member

    TOTAL REMOVAL is probably the only way...EVEN PAID AS AGREED BALANCE $0 WON'T HELP...so "THEY" say...
     
  11. mrmagoo

    mrmagoo Well-Known Member

    OK...how should I go about "TOTAL REMOVAL"? I am anxious to get working at this ASAP!
     
  12. GEORGE

    GEORGE Well-Known Member

    Pay in full and ask the loan company to have it REMOVED...

    Tell them you had no idea that it would hurt your F.I.C.O. score so much...
     
  13. picantel

    picantel Well-Known Member

    After I paid them off I send in disputes as not mine. Tu was the only one to remove them.

    Fico thinks that a finance loan means you are in financial trouble. What a load of horse crap. You can have 6 hard inquiries from shopping around and not be able to get a bank loan so you get a finance loan. That does not mean you have a bad credit report.
     
  14. lbrown59

    lbrown59 Well-Known Member

    This is why not to use them. They tank your credit.
     
  15. lbrown59

    lbrown59 Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: Finance Co. Loan drops score 33

     
  16. mrmagoo

    mrmagoo Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: Finance Co. Loan drops scor

    What are my chances of getting the loan company to remove it when/if paid in full?
     
  17. the other

    the other Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: Finance Co. Loan drops scor

    Even a car loan like mine (thru Nissan - NMAC) count as a finance account. At least according to TU. 0.9% interest is not sub-prime, yet it is counted negatively anyways.
     
  18. marci

    marci Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: Finance Co. Loan drops scor

    I agree that it is unfair. All of these count as finance accounts and hurt your score:

    Student Loans (i.e. Sallie Mae)

    Car Dealer Financing (i.e. Toyota/Honda Finance)

    Home Furniture Financing (i.e. Ethan Allen)



    But as harmful as they are, a finance account is better than a late on a non-finance account. So if you needed the cash to avoid deliquency, and this was the only way to get it, then you made a good decision.
     
  19. Sheepshead

    Sheepshead Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: Finance Co. Loan drops scor

    Sorry if this is "generally known," marci, but car dealer financing is frowned upon? How about auto financing through a bank - how is this viewed? I haven't financed a care in a long time and find this interesting.
     
  20. marci

    marci Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: Re: Finance Co. Loan drops scor

    Only by FICO. Dealership financing is often through manufacturer *finance companies*, not banks. FICO loves bank installment loans, but they are rated as *bank* installment loans.

    So, if you finance through a bank for a car at 5.9% and the dealership offers you the same terms at 5.9%, go through your bank. But if the bank offers 5.9% and the dealership offers you 1.9% - go with the dealership. Forget about FICO at that point and save your money!

    Finance accounts hurt more than bank installment loans but they aren't the kiss of death to your score that they are sometimes made out to be and eventually they don't hurt at all.
     

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