Gonna buy a House !?!

Discussion in 'Credit Talk' started by Larissa, Sep 25, 2001.

  1. Larissa

    Larissa Well-Known Member

    Just the NCO one. the MBNA one shows the status as Charged OFF and the Balance as 0...On EQ the status is R9...
     
  2. Struggler

    Struggler Well-Known Member

    Larissa,

    In this case, since the phone number that the credit reporting agency has for the collection agency doesn't work, I would simply dispute it with the credit agency. If *they* can't reach the collection agency for verification, then they should delete the entry.
     
  3. Larissa

    Larissa Well-Known Member

    I tried that, and that is when the entry for NCO started showing the message about being suppressed. I am disputing again. It only shows on TU..the other two just show the MBNA one..isn't that the one that is hurting me?
     
  4. roni

    roni Well-Known Member



    IF I remember correctly, Commercial Financial Services filed for Bankruptcy recently... NCO purchased all of their collections.


    http://cemr.ou.edu/press/1998/dec 22 1998.htm

    http://www.thedebttrader.com/indushis.html
     
  5. Larissa

    Larissa Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the links bkev! That would explain I guess why the phone number MBNA gave me does not work!

    In light of this new information, does anyone have any advice for me? MBNA states that they will not remove the listings(or update them) until they are informed to do so by the collection agency. The CA entry is not showing on EQ or EX and is showing suppressed by TU...I need to get the original MBNA entries changed to something that signifies a paid status or deleted entirely.

    I appreciate all your help

    Larissa
     
  6. Larissa

    Larissa Well-Known Member

    bump
     
  7. roni

    roni Well-Known Member

    Call MBNA back... but do not speak to the person who answers the telephone... Ask to speak with a supervisor... point out that their information is out of date (i.e. telephone number) and ask what can be done about the situation.
     
  8. rubyjean

    rubyjean Well-Known Member

     
  9. rubyjean

    rubyjean Well-Known Member

    Ok...now I need some serious advice and fast...after thinking about what Ruby said, I went to the MBNA web site and using their online access checked to see if the account was still in their system...guess what? It is, plus there is also a second account on there as well! It lets me look at the original account which shows suspended, with no balance, but when I try to look at the second account to see what it is it tells me to call them(this one shows closed)! So what do I do? Do I call them? What do I say? Will they even talk to me since it is hubby's account? Does this mean they own it, not NCO? Yikes! I am really confused. I also noticed they have a really old address of mine, like from 3 years ago, which would explain why I have heard nothing from them! What do I do?

    Larissa

    Larissa,

    Call 1-800-421-2110, ask if they can put you in touch with the Recovery Department.. They may have some answers for you.. I am sure that they do not have your account.. But they may be able to give you some of the answers that you are looking for.. Please remember that ..due the amount of time lapsed that there may not be very much imformation available ... Good luck
     
  10. rubyjean

    rubyjean Well-Known Member

    PS.. Forgot to tell you and this is very important.. MBNA will have a toll free Number for the Agency who has your account.. They will have all imformation in regards to the account..
     
  11. rubyjean

    rubyjean Well-Known Member

    Will not do any good because MBNA does not own account.. Deal with NCO.. Directly. Especially after the amount of time that has lapsed.. It is exactly what any supervisor would give you for a response
     
  12. Larissa

    Larissa Well-Known Member

    Thanks rubyjean. The toll free number they gave me did not work, they didn't even seem to know who NCO was. I have decided to let Bill Bauer deal with this because I understand he has dealt with NCO before. I will let you all know how it goes!

    Thanks
    Larissa
     
  13. Kittw1

    Kittw1 Well-Known Member

    RUBYJEAN,

    Any inside tips on securing MBNA credit (non-prime)?
     
  14. roni

    roni Well-Known Member

    Don't look at me......


    This is the problem consumers always face.... The original creditor reports the information, right or wrong, and then throws their hands up in the air saying "We don't own the account anymore, you need to deal with the Collection Agency!" Meanwhile the collection agency makes all sorts of promises to get the consumer to make payment and rarely communicates it back to the original creditor or the CRA. UGGGGGHHHHH!!! You really have to read the FCRA and FDCPA completely and be ready to use them!

    Nothing personal Ruby....
     
  15. rubyjean

    rubyjean Well-Known Member

    Re: Don't look at me......

    The accounts that I handle are accounts that we have tried to get a payment on for the last 6 months..They have been given different options, for 180 days.. In the final Month, they are sent a letter educating them that without a payment or payment arrangements, they will be sold to a Collection agency and at that time We will no longer own your account and that you will have to deal with them Correctly.. I had a Judge this Month who had over a 50 k credit card balance that was in my Que of accounts.. For the last 180 days we have been trying to assist him.. He was set up on a 25% settlement option and had not kept up with his part of the agreement.. The settlement was broken.. I called the Judge in his Chambers before his court Cases. ect every day.. He would come to the phone and say that he would call when he gets home.. I offered him the chance with a 5300.00 payment that I would consider the account settled , because I would resubmitt it and give him credit for the previou payments.. He just kept putting me off.. He had a New Landrover, 250k Mortgage.., Ect.. It looked like he had consolidated a lot of accounts with his MBNA balance.. I finally On Friday the day before the account was to be charged off gave him one last chance, that with a payment of 1220.00, I would hold the account as an exception for an extra month which would make it a 210 day account.. He again sd tht he would call me back.. He never did.. So to make a short story short.. We charged him off and will sell his account with the 53k balance to a collection agency, who will more than likely be a lot harder to deal.. with.. There is no disputing this.. All the debt is legitimate.. We gave him every opportunity.. If the Judge calls me next week... I will have to politely tell him that we no longer have his account and that he will have to deal with the Collection agency who purchased it..
     
  16. roni

    roni Well-Known Member

    Re: Don't look at me......

    But what about the accounts where the creditors make mistakes and mingle credit files. What about the case where the consumer was never contacted because it was not their accounts? What about the case where the consumer never bothered to check their reports because they were prompt on all their payments but find chargeoffs?

    I do not doubt that you offer solutions to people all day every day. I do doubt that your records are perfect and the "we don't own the account" attitude is not customer friendly or proactive to resolve actual creditor errors.


    Again, nothing personal. I couldn't [or want to] do your job.
     
  17. Larissa

    Larissa Well-Known Member

    Re: Don't look at me......

    Well that is all great ruby, I don't recall if MBNA called me or not before they charged it off...my question is, if they don't own the account, why can they still report it?
     
  18. Erica

    Erica Well-Known Member

    Re: Don't look at me......

    They can report the debt for 7 years under the law. If the CA decides to report the debt, then MBNA is in violation of some Act. Not sure if it is the FCRA or the FDCPA. They cannot both report the debt. If the CA decides to not report the debt, then MBNA is all clear.
     
  19. Larissa

    Larissa Well-Known Member

    Re: Don't look at me......

    IF the CA reports it at all? Or is it specific to the CRA? The reason I ask is that the CA IS reporting it on TU and so is MBNA, but the CA is not reporting on EQ or EX...MBNA is on all 3
     
  20. jmart

    jmart Well-Known Member

    Re: Don't look at me......

    I have the same question...

    Is it illegal for both the creditor AND the CA to report the same debt on a credit report? Even if it shows charged off, and then an active collection be the CA?

    Thanks!

    jmart
     

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