Gee, I thought Carter wasn't re-elected because he was totally ineffective as president. I think he's a good man, but he was a lousy president. Gib
What I am saying is that what one president does, so do them all especially in recent history. It's just that the agendas slightly differ when it comes to the regular joe.
Which, I might add was subsequently funnelled to North Koria and Iraq, and probably Iran as well. I'm glad Clinton didn't wind up where he belongs. Otherwise they wouldn't have been able to bring him out and parade him before the voting public (unless they have a work program for former presidents that I'm unaware of). It turned OFF a lot of liberals and brought out the Repub. base. Another excellent political startegy by the Dems. But the girls are right, now we can get some serious work done. Oh Dick Gebhardt just announced he will not run again. ChickenSh|t. LOL
See if you can guess who made these comments? 1. Back in 1991 who wrote a letter to the members of the United Nations Security Council asking the members to stop George Bush (The Elder) from using American force to remove Saddam Hussein from Kuwait? 2. Who called Yugoslavian Communist Dictator Marshall Tito "a man who believes in human rights"? Bear in mind, now, that Tito built a prison exclusively to house his political prisoners. 3. Who said that Marshall Tito, once the Secretary General of the Yugoslavian Communist Party, "led his people and protected their freedom almost for the last 40 years.â?? That's right, praise for a Communist dictator protecting the freedom of the people. 4. Discussing Nicolae Ceausescu, the Communist dictator of Romania from 1965 to 1989, who said "Our goals are the same. . . . We believe in enhancing human rights. We believe that we should enhance, as independent nations, the freedom of our own people."? 5. Who told Haitian dictator Lt. Gen Raoul Cedras that he was "ashamed of what my country has done to your country." Answer: Jimmy Carter
Are you arguing that Reagan and the two Bushes haven't done anything questionable? My argument is not that Carter was the greatest president which is where this seems to be leading. My argument is that some presidents are worse than others and we have yet to see how bad it is going to get. Do I think Clinton was the best? No. But he was better than others. But it all depends on what is important to you. If I were president, I would stop all foreign aid. No one helps us out financially when we need it. Our house is out of order and with the republicans wanting to initiate this "war", it's only going to get worse for those who don't have contracts with the government. ( I couldn't resist that one! lol)
Well I'm estatic that the GOP is back in control of the senate. As far as the Democrats go, they do have problems. Old Al & Bill couldn't help poor McBride beat Jeb Bush in FL.
Frederic Bastiat's "The Law" states: --- Now since man is naturally inclined to avoid pain- and since labor is pain in itself- it follows that men will resort to plunder whenever plunder is easier than work. History shows this quite clearly. And under these conditions, neither religion nor morality can stop it. When, then, does plunder stop? It stops when it becomes more painful and more dangerous than labor. It is evident, then, that the proper purpose of law is to use the power of its collective force to stop this fatal tendency to plunder instead of to work. All the measures of the law should protect property and punish plunder. --- Fact: Democrat's tend to rely on votes from people who plunder. Republicans rely on people who work.
Milkmom, I like you. I agree with you 100%" Back to fear of Nuclear War and the Reagan years: Does anyone remember the early Reagan years of constant Russian turmoil? Anyone remember the movie, "The Morning After"? I couldn't sleep for days and every plane that flew overhead I thought was a missle. I was in the 4th grade when Reagan became president and I hated him big time. All that was in the news and what we were learning at school was how we just kept making more and more nuclear weapons to match all the weapons the USSR was making and how we were trying to make missle defense weapons to launch in space to destroy the russians weapons. The Wall came down in the fall of 1989(my freshman year of college) after Reagan's terms in office and even though he had something to do with it, it still doesn't change my memory or fear of nuclear war in the early 80s. People seem to forget the Iran/Contra crap too that happened during Reagan's term. It seems that republicans always think they can do no wrong, yet a democrat does one wrong thing and he is scarred for life. That really bothers me how Republicans are so self- rightious and democrats are always fools. Also, people are always ridiculing Clinton for his immoral acts in office yet, I can probably guarantee others(senators and congressmen) are cheating on their wives as we speak.
Floridians: Think Republicans are the only rich ones? ...Yet according to his disclosure forms, which included his 2001 federal tax return, his (BILL MCBRIDE's) net worth as of July 23 was more than $1.9 million -- exceeding that of the governor (JEB BUSH), who listed his net worth at $1.5 million, but less than that of RENO, whose lucrative speaking engagements after she left the Clinton administration helped spike her net worth to $2.5 million. Simple enough. But day in and day out....democrats scream how republicans are the ones with all the money.
The Morning After....scared me senseless! Same with the movie Red Dawn, when the Ruskies invaded. But... America won the cold war because of Reagan's military spending. It was no accident. Once it started, Russia couldn't keep up and crumbled economically for that reason. Reagan knew this, and I thought everyone else did as well? Both parties are dirtbags for the most part, that much I agree. Clinton however, was from the page not even in the book. Just ask Vincent Foster (if you could).
WOW!!! Way to go Gracie, (my deep thinking comrade. (here's more) The Fatal Tendency of Mankind Self-preservation and self-development are common aspirations among all people. And if everyone enjoyed the unrestricted use of his faculties and the free disposition of the fruits of his labor, social progress would be ceaseless, uninterrupted, and unfailing. But there is also another tendency that is common among people. When they can, they wish to live and prosper at the expense of others. This is no rash accusation. Nor does it come from a gloomy and uncharitable spirit. The annals of history bear witness to the truth of it: the incessant wars, mass migrations, religious persecutions, universal slavery, dishonesty in commerce, and monopolies. This fatal desire has its origin in the very nature of man -- in that primitive, universal, and insuppressible instinct that impels him to satisfy his desires with the least possible pain. Property and Plunder Man can live and satisfy his wants only by ceaseless labor; by the ceaseless application of his faculties to natural resources. This process is the origin of property. But it is also true that a man may live and satisfy his wants by seizing and consuming the products of the labor of others. This process is the origin of plunder. Now since man is naturally inclined to avoid pain -- and since labor is pain in itself -- it follows that men will resort to plunder whenever plunder is easier than work. History shows this quite clearly. And under these conditions, neither religion nor morality can stop it. When, then, does plunder stop? It stops when it becomes more painful and more dangerous than labor. It is evident, then, that the proper purpose of law is to use the power of its collective force to stop this fatal tendency to plunder instead of to work. All the measures of the law should protect property and punish plunder. But, generally, the law is made by one man or one class of men. And since law cannot operate without the sanction and support of a dominating force, this force must be entrusted to those who make the laws. This fact, combined with the fatal tendency that exists in the heart of man to satisfy his wants with the least possible effort, explains the almost universal perversion of the law. Thus it is easy to understand how law, instead of checking injustice, becomes the invincible weapon of injustice. It is easy to understand why the law is used by the legislator to destroy in varying degrees among the rest of the people, their personal independence by slavery, their liberty by oppression, and their property by plunder. This is done for the benefit of the person who makes the law, and in proportion to the power that he holds. Today the country is pretty well split down the middle. It's also a fact that almost 50% of the people in this country are on the Gov't dole, in one form or another, the plunderers. There IS a corrollation. Half vote democrat and half vote repub. Those who are the "Haves", have 50% of their income extorted in the form of taxes, fees, fines, excise, you name it, to supply free stuff to the other half, the belly achers, bitching because we don't have free health insurance for everyone, free prescriptions for all seniors, free this and free that. Ather the last 40 years of democratic control any clear thinking individual should see where the problems have come from. The good news is, finally, maybe we can get some things fixed.
By the way. Bastiat wrote his prophetic words 150+ years ago. For those who'd like to know more about this utterly brilliant Political/Economic French Philosopher; http://www.jim.com/index.htm
Socialized medical care? Believe me, you don't want it. I spent 3 months in a socialized medical facility outside this country. Skip it. At least here you can fire your Dr. and scream lawsuit. That said, we need to cap the insurance companies and do something here.
"The only justifiable purpose of political institutions is to assure the uninhindered development of the individual..." --Albert Einstein Get over your dogma people, there's a bigger picture to all of this.
"To suppose that any form of government will secure liberty or happiness without any virtue in the people, is a chimerical idea." James Madison He lived over 200 years ago. Founded a country . . helped est. a central govt. etc etc
"It is better to cherish virtue and humanity, by leaving much to free will, even with some loss of the object , than to attempt to make men mere machines and instruments of political benevolence. The world on the whole will gain by a liberty, without which virtue cannot exist." Edmund Burke --another founding father.
"The aim of every political Constitution, is or ought to be first to obtain for rulers men who possess most wisdom to discern, and most virtue to pursue, the common good of society; and in the next place, to take the most effectual precautions for keeping them virtuous whilst they continue to hold their public trust." James Madison
