Got reply from Validation letter...

Discussion in 'Credit Talk' started by Emrys, Jul 12, 2002.

  1. Emrys

    Emrys Member

    Today I got a letter responding from the validation letter I sent ( the one from this forum ). They did not provide anything but information I already knew.

    I am under the impression, that they need to supply something with a signature to prove the validy of the loan. Is this the way it works? Are they supposed to send something with my signature to validate this loan? What would be my next step? Should I call them? Send them another letter? Just wait for the 30 days to end and send them a demand-removal letter?

    Thanks for the help...

    Emrys
     
  2. javan

    javan Well-Known Member

    send the Estoppel letter(do a search or look in FAQ's)
     
  3. Emrys

    Emrys Member

    Should I wait for the 30 mark or not? I read the elstoppo letter, and that is for 60 days... I still need to give them their 30 days.

    Them telling me that I owe them money is not proof. I am reading the FCRA and I haven't really gotten anything about what is considered LEGALLY proof of debt. Any ideas on this?

    Thanks....

    Emrys
     
  4. Quixote

    Quixote Well-Known Member

    Holy Cow!! I haven't laughed that hard in a while. I propose we officially change the name from Estoppel (which nobody knows what it means anyway) to Elstoppo. I totally get what an Elstoppo letter must be about. LOL
     
  5. mindcrime2

    mindcrime2 Well-Known Member

    elstoppo senor


    LOL
     
  6. Maggie75

    Maggie75 Well-Known Member


    HTGP, LTH !!
    Had to go pee, laughing too hard !!
     
  7. RoundLake

    RoundLake Well-Known Member

    I searched the archive for "elstoppo" and could not find anything at all . . .

    -Cliff
     
  8. lbrown59

    lbrown59 Well-Known Member

    1*Yes.
    2*Change it to 30 DAYS.
    On day 31 send them the following ESTOPPEL LETTER!
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    «Your Name»
    «Address1»
    «Address2»
    «City», «State» «Zip»

    «Company»
    «Address1»
    «Address2»
    «City», «State» «Zip»

    «Date»

    RE: Dispute Letter of <insert date>

    Dear Sir/Madame:

    As I have not heard back from you in over 30 days regarding my notice of dispute dated <insert date>, and you have not supplied the demanded proof of the alleged debt, under the doctrine of estoppel by silence, Engelhardt v Gravens (Mo) 281 SW 715, 719, I may presume that no proof of the alleged debt, nor therefore any such debt, in fact exists.

    In a good faith effort to resolve this matter amicably, I restate my demand for proof of the debt, specifically the alleged contract or other instrument bearing my signature, as well as proof of your authority in this matter. Absent such proof, you must terminate this collection action and correct any erroneous reports of this debt as mine.

    For the record, I state again that as I have no account with you, nor am I your customer, nor have I entered into a contract with you, I must ask for the following information:



    Please evidence your authorization under 15 USC 1692 (e) and 15 USC 1692 (f) in this alleged matter.

    What is your authorization of law for your collection of information?

    What is your authorization of law for your collection of this alleged debt?

    Please evidence your authorization to do business or operate in the state of Florida.

    Please evidence proof of the alleged debt, including specifically the alleged contract or other instrument bearing my signature.


    You have fifteen (15) days from receipt of this notice to respond. Your failure to respond, on point, in writing, hand signed, and in a timely manner, will work as a waiver to any and all of your claims in this matter, and will entitle me to presume that you sent your letter(s) in error, and that this matter is permanently closed.

    Your continued silence is unacceptable. Either provide the proof or correct the record to remove the invalid debt from my credit files with the three primary credit-reporting agencies. You are currently in violation of the Fair Credit Reporting Act and the Fair Debt Collection Act.

    Failure to respond within 15 days of receipt of this registered letter will result in a small claims action against your company. I will be seeking $5,000 in damages for the following:



    Defamation

    Negligent Enablement of Identity Fraud

    Violation of the Fair Credit Reporting Act


    After obtaining the judgment against your company, I will obtain a Writ of Execution from the Sheriffâ??s office in your county and I will begin the process of attaching property or funds to satisfy the judgment.

    For the purposes of 15 USC 1692 et seq., this Notice has the same effect as a dispute to the validity of the alleged debt and a dispute to the validity of your claims. This Notice is an attempt to correct your records, and any information received from you will be collected as evidence should any further action be necessary. This is a request for information only, and is not a statement, election, or waiver of status.

    I affirm under penalty of perjury under the Laws of the Land for the United States of America, that the foregoing is true and correct, to the best of my knowledge and belief.

    Sincerely,
    « Type Your Name»
    ````````````````````````````````````
    Don't sign this letter.



     
  9. Emrys

    Emrys Member

    Thanx, I will wait till day 31, and send them the elstoppo!
     
  10. Butch

    Butch Well-Known Member

    You guy's are FUNNY.

    Why in the heck would you include this line in your Elstoopo Letter?

    "I affirm under penalty of perjury under the Laws of the Land for the United States of America, that the foregoing is true and correct, to the best of my knowledge and belief".

    Totally Nutz!
     
  11. Saar

    Saar Banned

    Re: Got reply from Validation lette

    I agree. That line is totally unnecessary.
     

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