sassy i also understand what you're saying and (not being fecsious, sincerely) i appreciate you're concern. but the thing is, o.k. at one point the tickets were not paid, as i said they suspended my license, maybe that was when the collection agency got it, i do not know, but anyways AFTER they suspended my license i paid it (i had no choice) what you are saying is i get pulled over, they arrest me b/c their system says i owe. you know what system they are getting that from, the ms hwy patrol. all their info comes from the main system in jackson, i called jackson, jackson gave me the same song and dance, you recieved xxxviolation on xxx you're license was suspended on xxxx you paid the fine xxxx you're license was reinstated xxxx. so it seems to me like this ca may have had the file 6 years ago when it was not paid, now they are pursuing it w/o even checking to make sure its "valid". and by the way the court clerk mentioned that this was a collection agency that the cty 'had used at one time'
I understand tnobles, perhaps you could request the court send you a letter with that same information in it so you would have it for your files -- then you are safe all the way around. I believe I previously posted that I would hold the county responsible for the CA's actions as well. I'd see if I could get a letter from the court, that should be routine, and then charge full steam ahead. What is making me really angry with your posts, not you, and I do understand your frustration, but, the more details you post the crazier this becomes. It is as illegal to impersonate an officer of the court as it is to impersonate law enforcement. The County (the Court that now has said they previously used that collection agency) hasn't been very responsible in making sure that the information was returned to them. This could potentially be very serious for you because your license contains enough information for identity theft. That CA pretending to be an arm of the court already isn't acting very responsibly with your information. I think the guy that told you it was a joke, they were a collection agency and had no authority, should be doing more than laughing about it -- all the while knowing what they are doing. You can't be the first as he didn't read to be too bothered or shocked. Likewise, I think the clerk's office should be doing more than saying, no worries our records show that you are paid. The County is responsible for having provided them the information that is now being abused in the first place and they bear some responsibility in getting it back and seeing that they stop their tactics. If you don't want to sue personally, I think the letter your mom received, together with a letter from the court on your current status, and a trip to the police department to make a report on their impersonation is in order. Or, take both letters to the County Attorney, they can shut them down as well. If the Court wants to keep laughing and making light of this, the Superior Court has jurisdiction over them and will initiate an investigation into it. The Courts are accountable for their records and their duties and responsibilities, abuse of power isn't taken lightly. The CA is abusing their power in their name, in addition to everything else (FDCPA, impersonation, pretending to be a legal process) -- it is mind-boggling to me why the County and Court aren't tripping all over themselves to provide you everything you need in writing and reign in that CA they had previously hired. They have their butts hanging out all over the place. You can't be the only one they are doing this to. Sassy
sassy to be honest w/you i am letting my mom handle most of it, since i am 70 miles away. i will be even more honest , though quite ashamed. the reason these tickets had to be paid is 1. got the tickets 2. did'nt pay them (honest mistake, moved to a different state) 3. got pulled over again a year later(visiting mom), they say hey you're license is suspended for failure to appear/unpaid fine 4. they take me to police station say you have to bond out since it was a failure to appear. 5. bond out 6. pay the fine to clear the bond. 7. take my reciepts to jackson to get license reinstated(at this point had moved back to Ms.) these 2 tickets turned into all of that. so yesterday my mom calls bonding co. now they are involved b/c they bonded me out. they have documents showing paid the owner of bonding co. still p.o.'ed calls court clerk whose name is on the letter, he has no knowledge. bonding co. tells my mom it's a 'scam co.' anyways i did not want to divuldge this embarrassing info. but maybe it will help you to better understand
I'm understanding, tnobles, Your story shows how tickets BREED! They grow arms and tentacles and extra teeth ;-). You don't need to be embarassed, you're not the only person who has ever not paid tickets and ended up with a suspended license. I just didn't want you only going on someone saying that you were taken care of because mistakes do happen and tickets do breed. The comments you receive here or anywhere are just people's opinions, advice to take or not to take, that is always up to you and your choice alone to make. Thank you for having the courage to share. Sassy
well anyways that is why i'm so p.o.'ed. because these 2 stinking b.s. tickets have been haunting me for going on 7 years now. so even though i am not sue crazy, i'm in the mood right now. that was the info i was looking for. what do i have here? should i just see an attorney. by the way the phone # i called w/these people i left a voice-mail saying i did not owe any fine and they have not called me back. of course that was the VERY first call i made and i was extra nice b/c i was under the impression it was like a detective or something ie;CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION DIVISION
tnobles, I know you are outraged at this letter, but the other posters are only trying to point out that this might be a symptom of a larger and more serious problem. All they are trying to do is get you to step back for a minute and look at the bigger picture. Yes, you told all of us here a creditnet that you paid the fine. But someone, or some computer system somewhere does not know this fact. This letter you received the letter is a symptom of that fact. An analogy would be something that happend to my dad. He started coughing and could not stop. He went to his HMO doctor, who kept prescribing stronger and stronger cough medicines to control the irritating cough. Only later, when it was too late, did he bother to check WHY dad was coughing, and discovered lung cancer. The point is the doctor and dad were so focused on the coughing that was keeping him up at night that they failed to step back to see the more serious problem, the cancer that was spreading. Back to your situation. All the phone call assurances in the world are not going to help you when some highway patrol officer stops you for some silly thing and discovers a bench warrant for you. Yes, in the end you will more than likely prevail, but only after spending days in jail and untold hundreds on lawyer fees. You need carefully double check that there is not a real warrant out for you. I know it sucks, but you have to do this. As someone who has witnessed people going though the "justice" system, and as you should have learned by now from your experience, the system has no horse sense, no compassion, and no brains. It is designed to chew people up and spit them out, so tread carefully. Once you are satisfied that there is no larger danger, then I would start to attack the CA who issued this letter. I would start with chief justice of court the CA claims to represent. I doubt they would have a sense of humor about this. Ditto, complain the state consumer affairs dept, and the state justice dept. I once had to deal with a private company in Houston that took their association with the local law enforcement a little too seriously. I got them fired and in serious legal trouble for it too. The Sheriff's dept was not happy about the little stunt this company pulled. It was a local tow truck company that had the contract to tow the cars of local DUI arrests. A friend of mine was busted for DUI. The company took her pickup. When she went to get her pickup, the company could not find it (I drove her over there). So we called the Sheriff's Dept. A minute after the Sheriff's dept. showed up, here came her pickup racing down the street being driven by in unlicenced 15 year kid that the owner of the tow yard had sent on an errand. He gave the kid my friend's pickup truck to go fetch a motor from another yard across town. The Sheriff saw this with his own eyes and was furious. He fired the yard on the spot. The yard owner tried to blame the kid, but the kid refused take the rap, and the Sheriff's deputy wasn't that stupid in the first place. The owner had criminal charges pressed against him by the Sheriff's Dept.. The owner then started screaming at my friend for calling the Sheriff over this "misunderstanding" and making him loose his contract. My point is, even in Houston, the law doesn't like it when private companies start taking their association too seriously. Good luck. Keep us informed of development (not from jail please