Help Experts Re:weird score change

Discussion in 'Credit Talk' started by Calypso, Apr 27, 2002.

  1. Calypso

    Calypso Well-Known Member

    Have scoured 2 EQ reports that are 4 days apart.

    Have checked and rechecked and the only difference
    I can find is that Texaco reported a $16 charge
    I made last month.

    Score went down 6 POINTS!

    The ironic thing was that since FICO preaches "Mix"
    I used this old card that I hadn't charged in probably
    4 years. I was thinking that I would use it once, pay it, and put it back in the drawer, keeping it from going inactive. (And I thought it would positively
    impact the scoring model)

    I wonder what the trigger was? Using a card that had been dormant? Using a card with such a low limit? (I have pretty high limits on my other cards, but since I don't use this gas card, it is only a measly $250) Maybe it was that 1 extra charge that triggered too many (although reason codes did NOT change) It certainly didn't change ratios or proportions. Anybody have a clue?

    It really is crazy. I'm certain that the $16 made me a much more dangerous credit risk. 6 points is a lot!

    I find this data fascinating though. So when people
    discover these kinds of score changes, I hope they let others know.

    Knowledge is Power.

    C
     
  2. Calypso

    Calypso Well-Known Member

    BTW--

    I know that nobody here *knows* FICOs mystery-score-formula. So, I am not expecting anyone
    to have a genuine answer.

    I'm just curious if anyone has observed anything similar on his/her own report.

    Every time I feel like I am beginning to understand the model, I get thrown by something
    like this.

    They have so many variables that the slightest change can trigger a bizarre score change.

    No wonder they didn't want us looking at these
    scores!

    I still think it is hilarious that a new installment loan causes FICO to rocket. That paying down mortgages
    doesn't seem to change any of the 3. That 1 inquiry
    can ding so many points. That paying down a balance has different effects on different days. That 1 report can say you have too many accounts, and another that you don't have enough.

    Are we certain that the people who designed the models weren't having a little fun?? "Hey, Mike. Let's make the score go down 6 points if the person applies for a credit card on a Wednesday, and 5 on a Friday?" (I'm only joking btw. I don't *think* they
    really did that)
     
  3. Mist

    Mist Well-Known Member

    I've had the exact same thing happen on Experian (CE). The more accounts you have balances on (even a small balance) causes you to lose points even when you don't get the "Too Many Accounts with Balances" as a reason code. I couldn't figure it out either but I did it three times and each time I lost points and then the following month when those accounts had zero balances again my points went back up.
     
  4. Calypso

    Calypso Well-Known Member

    Thanks for replying, Mist.

    I am really trying to keep track of these factors.
    By July or Aug (if the creditors will report!) I should have zero balances on every card and I'm curious to see what happens.



    Sometimes I get nostalgic for the simple, old days
    when I thought paying your bills on time and
    responsibly managing debt was what really
    mattered! (LOL)
     
  5. Dancer

    Dancer Well-Known Member



    Shhhh..... Careful! The Thought Police might come for you......
     
  6. lbrown59

    lbrown59 Well-Known Member

    1*And usually to our disadvantage.Just the way they rigged it.
    2*Same reason a burglar doesn't like lighting.
    3*Con games are never funny.
    4* Don't give them any more Ideas.


     
  7. GEORGE

    GEORGE Well-Known Member

    You BETTER NOT get any insurance on MONDAY!!! (one's that "PULL")...You are a worse driver today than you were last week...
     

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