Help!!! I Need An Expert!!

Discussion in 'Credit Talk' started by YUMMYCAKES, Dec 3, 2003.

  1. YUMMYCAKES

    YUMMYCAKES Well-Known Member

    Okay here's the deal. I sent a CA a cease and desist letter. I sent it CRRR. It was for an NSF check. I just found out today that they still have the check and they still show I owe them money!!!! So when I tried to write a check at a local store it was declined. The check that was sent to the CA has long been paid and I have the bank money order to prove it. The money order was cashed on 09/26/03. I spoke with the CA today and they said all the cease and desist letter does is stop them from contacting me about the collection. I thought with a cease and desist letter, they had to send the debt back to the original creditor!!! Can someone please explain what a CA has to do after they get a cease and desist letter and what part of the FDCPA backs it up???
     
  2. AtlantaGA

    AtlantaGA Well-Known Member

    the CA is right. All a C&D does is stop them from contacting you in certain ways. It does not stop them from attempting to collect.
     
  3. Hedwig

    Hedwig Well-Known Member

    AtlantaGA is correct. That is why we recommend a limited cease and desist, which tells them to contact you only in writing, not by phone.

    When you send them a full cease and desist, you are basically telling them that the only option left is to sue you. Even with a C&D, they are allowed to file suit. That's why you allow them to contact you in writing.

    You may want to send them an amended letter saying contact in writing only so you can work with them and get this cleared up.
     
  4. YUMMYCAKES

    YUMMYCAKES Well-Known Member

    So what do I do now that I have paid the OC? I have proof of the payment? Then if it only means they can't call you anymore, then why do almost all of the cease and desist letters I have read state that they can't report it on your credit report.
     
  5. YUMMYCAKES

    YUMMYCAKES Well-Known Member

    I have already paid the OC!! So now what?
     
  6. jlynn

    jlynn Well-Known Member

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    You are still going to have to communicate with either the CA or the OC to straighten this out.

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  7. AtlantaGA

    AtlantaGA Well-Known Member

    I would send proof of payment to the CA and the OC and demand they fix it. Not doing so would violated the FDCPA and the FCRA.
     
  8. YUMMYCAKES

    YUMMYCAKES Well-Known Member

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    I understand that much but what do I tell them? I didn't pay the fees to the OC that the CA charged for the check. Does this change anything? Can the CA still charge me the fees?
     
  9. Hedwig

    Hedwig Well-Known Member

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    First, I'd send a validation letter to the CA. They're supposed to validate the debt with the OC. They should find out it's no longer valid and delete it. If they find out it's not valid and don't delete their entry, they are reporting what they then know to be inaccurate information.

    A cease & desist shouldn't mention deleting the tradeline. Some people add the cease & desist language in their validation. They state that if the debt isn't valid it must be deleted and also ask that future correspondence be only in writing.

    That's why it's important to read about the use of the letters, not just find a letter and send it. You need to understand why you're sending that particular letter and how it applies in your case. In most cases, the letters should be modified to fit your circumstances.
     
  10. Hedwig

    Hedwig Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, duplicate post!
     
  11. YUMMYCAKES

    YUMMYCAKES Well-Known Member

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    My letter didn't state anything about deleting the tradeline. I never said it did.
     
  12. YUMMYCAKES

    YUMMYCAKES Well-Known Member

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    What about the fees?
    Anyone???
     
  13. tonyd

    tonyd Well-Known Member

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    I would just do what Hedwig said and dispute the debt with the CA. They need to validate the debt or delete the TL, plain and simple. I would not worry about the fees right now. Let them send that info in the debt validation. If they don't send it, they will surely walk into a violation or 2, and then you have $1000 or $2000 in fines and an ITS to use as leverage. I am sure the fees are WAY under this amount, so you'll probably get deletion.
     
  14. Butch

    Butch Well-Known Member

    ???
     
  15. YUMMYCAKES

    YUMMYCAKES Well-Known Member

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    I paid the Original Creditor a couple weeks after I got the notice from the collection agency. I sent the cease and desist letter the same day I paid the OC. It is not listed on my credit report. So how would the validation work?? They would just send me a copy of the check they have. I just don't want to get a letter saying they are putting a judgement against me for the fees. What good dose it do to even send a cease and desist if all the CA does is not call you but still say you owe them the money.
     
  16. jlynn

    jlynn Well-Known Member

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    Did the OC send you your original check?
     
  17. YUMMYCAKES

    YUMMYCAKES Well-Known Member

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    No, the CA has it.
     
  18. Butch

    Butch Well-Known Member

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    No apparently not Jodi.

    The OC sent it to CA and CA noticed Yummy. 2 weeks later she paid the OC.


    Call the OC and make sure they;

    a) Have it listed as paid, and;
    b) Will withdraw the account as "reported in error:.

    This triggers an automatic deletion (if apploicabel).


    Be nice and sweet. Bat your eye lashes over the phone.

    :)

    .
     
  19. jlynn

    jlynn Well-Known Member

    Yep, your going to have to go thru the OC...let them know THEY screwed up (although questionable) ;)
     
  20. YUMMYCAKES

    YUMMYCAKES Well-Known Member

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    I just talked to the OC and he said he told the CA that I paid him. I don't know what to do about the fees they say I owe now.
     

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