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How can truecredit.com be so far off?

Discussion in 'Credit Talk' started by ajoariz, Apr 4, 2008.

  1. ajoariz

    ajoariz Member

    My Equifax FAKO on truecredit has been hovering in the 650-680 range for a year. Last night I decided to go to myfico.com and purchase my real FICO score....using the 25% off coupon provided by this website. Thanks. My FICO is 779. I was floored.

    Why waste money with truecredit if their information can be this far off base? If you are using truecredit.com, perhaps your information is terribly inaccurate as well. Just a thought.

    As a monitoring service, they may work well. On providing a reasonable and believable credit score though, they disappoint me.
     
  2. CMJ1015

    CMJ1015 Active Member

    WOW, based on your post I checked mine:

    My truecredit FAKO for Equifax is 610 and my Equifax FICO is 658.

    Not as dramatic a difference as yours, but still good news none the less!
     
  3. MNguy

    MNguy Member

    Yeah mine was off something like 50 points. I just use it to check what has come on my report or off. The score part is useless.
     
  4. apexcrsrv

    apexcrsrv Well-Known Member

    It is a good service for monitoring and taking off inquiries.
     
  5. woofer

    woofer Well-Known Member

    Hmmm wonder if it like this for everyone. I have never done a real FICO but I always heard that the FAKE scores were always higher.
    This proves NOT to be true.
    I like it. : )
    Woofer
     
  6. Hedwig

    Hedwig Well-Known Member

    I think it can be either way. I've heard of some that were higher and some that were lower.

    Crazy, isn't it?
     
  7. bizwiz41

    bizwiz41 Well-Known Member

    I think the FICO model has "tweaked" lately, probably reflecting changes in relative scores, but I think the FAKOs are running the same old models. I've seen discrepancies like those above, and now FICOs seem to be running higher than FAKOs....
     
  8. Hedwig

    Hedwig Well-Known Member

    ...Interesting! Since my FAKO is almost 800, I wonder if I'm really over 800?
     
  9. bizwiz41

    bizwiz41 Well-Known Member

    Which FAKO though? I've seen the TU scores are now pretty close to FICOs, though they have a scale thats more than 100 points higher...
     
  10. apexcrsrv

    apexcrsrv Well-Known Member

    We've seen the same "typical" results for what it's worth.
     
  11. bizwiz41

    bizwiz41 Well-Known Member

    Hmmm.....that is very interesting. Now that I think about it, I have not seen FICO posting overall statistics in a while.
     
  12. Big Al

    Big Al Active Member

    Hey all, been away from the board for a while doing my thing but as expected, the two topics I came for answers on are currently running threads. So my question for the pros regarding the whole FICO vs. FAKO issue is this: What's to guarantee that a creditor you're applying to will look at your FICO score and not a FAKO score? I'm a manager for an Auto Group and I see the Finance Managers at my stores pull more than one bureau on each prospective buyer all day long. And it's not like they pull an Experian with a FICO then TU with a FICO. They pull each report with it's own proprietary score. If a customer told one of my guys, "I have a copy of my FICO score and it's 20 points higher than the FAKO score you pulled," we'd probably all have a laugh. I know for a fact that the bank reps on the other end of our application process are pulling the same multiple scores.
     
  13. Hedwig

    Hedwig Well-Known Member

    If it's an auto dealer, they're probably pulling an auto-enhanced score, which is even different.

    That's what makes it so hard. There isn't just one FICO model, there are many. They can orient them toward a certain business. For example, an auto-enhanced score might count auto loans and other installment loans heavier and not put as much weight on credit cards. I'm not saying that's how it is, but it's possible.
     
  14. bizwiz41

    bizwiz41 Well-Known Member

    Depending upon the lenders worked with on the auto financing, they could also use their own scoring model. However, the relative default risk should be roughly the same for relative scores.
     
  15. apexcrsrv

    apexcrsrv Well-Known Member

    Point in case here . . . there are many models and who uses what is determined by the lender.

    This is what people miss when it comes to the whole FICO 08' phenomenon.
     
  16. TeeVeeDude

    TeeVeeDude Well-Known Member

    Just for comparison

    Since I just recently updated both reports, here's how my scores compare:

    TU Ex Eq
    TrueCredit 580 580 579
    MyFICO 599 601 514


    So TrueCredit underestimates my score by 20 points for TransUnion and Experian, but OVERestimates my score by a whopping 65 at Equifax. I have two active collection accounts reporting on Equifax and not on the the other two, so that may be what makes the difference.
     
  17. ajoariz

    ajoariz Member

    Here's one for the conspiracy theorists.

    Since posting the original thread last week, Truecredit has kicked me off their service. Absolutely no reason given. It isn't like I log on often for bumpage. My inquiry count is too low to even bother.

    It wouldn't take much research to cross-reference who I am on Truecredit as my logon here is the same logon there. Perhaps I have a carried away imagination, but I bet dollars to donuts that we have a Truecredit troll running around these boards.

    I know that there are others here that have also been kicked off, but the general consensus was because of high website usage. I don't fit that pattern though. I've been using Truecredit for a year and a half and this is too much of a coincidence.
     
  18. TeeVeeDude

    TeeVeeDude Well-Known Member

    Are you sure you are really kicked off?

    I've been seeing this message a lot:
    " Privacy Protection
    In order to protect your privacy, we cannot display your credit report online.

    Explanation:
    Protecting the privacy of your personal information is of utmost importance to TrueCredit. Because our system could not verify your identity, we are unable to display your credit report online at this time."

    I must have seen this at least 10 times in the past week. Each time, I hit the back button and then repeat whatever I was trying to do, and it works fine.

    I've seen messages about this on other boards, so I'm not the only one seeing these.
     
  19. ajoariz

    ajoariz Member

    That isn't what I'm seeing. Good thought though. I've been locked out and told to contact customer service for more information. It has nothing to do with a missed payment as it's automated and my payments are current.

    There isn't a valid reason for locking me out....other than my posting and they got their feelings hurt.

    I'm going to call them for an explanation.
     
  20. jlynn

    jlynn Well-Known Member

    Probably your best choice.
     

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