Re: Javan Here is what Javan says that I said: "Then the advice you give is to write a letter to the judge or a clerk. How is this person supposed which judge to addres his/her letter to? And, how in the world can a clerk assist with vacating a judgment?" Here is what I actually said: "Perhaps a letter can be written to the judge or clerk stating the reasons why the judgment debtor believes that the judgment should be vacated, perhaps one has to go in front of a judge and present those reasons. I don't know what has to be done, but I would contact the court clerk and ask." A court clerk can often offer advice to citizens, yes. Is that so difficult to imagine? I think not. How do you know who the judge is or was? The clerk could probably tell you that too by looking up the case. Alternatively, the clerk could indicate where the case can be looked up. When you find the case record, the judge's name can be read from the record. It is really quite simple.
OK, CAN WE MAKE UP NOW? why dont you continue this thread via email between yourselves... Just my .02 and, dont staqrt flaming me for asking you two to stop this nonesense! Nestea
Re: Javan Not sure which court clerks you're talking to, but, from all I've heard and every clerk I've talked to, their statement is all the same- "We can NOT give legal advice, please contact your attorney." Yes, they can tell you the case number and whom the judge was, further than that they repeat the above statement.
Re: Javan Quote from Javan: "..The poster in the 2nd thread specifically said CreditWatch and you *corrected* him/her by saying they meant to say CreditExpert." I incorrectly assumed that the poster was referring to creditexpert.com. By placing a question mark at the end of my assumption, it should have been clear that I doubted my assumption. I did not "correct" the poster as you would like the Forum to believe. Here is what I actually said: _____________________________ Quote from the kid: "I assume that you are talking about creditexpert.com? Yeah, I did the 30 day trial about 4 or 5 times, lol. I understand that they can now identify those of us who have repeatedly signed up for the 30 day trial, and they will bill us immediately the next time that we do it. I don't know of any other free offers right now." ________________ All of that aside, the poster was ASKING FOR SITES THAT OFFERED FREE CREDIT REPORTS AND SCORES. I did in fact provide the name of a site that offers a free report and score, which is PRECISELY what the poster was asking for. Notice that your buddy, humblemarc, offered no advice whatsoever about where to obtain a free report and score, nor did humblemarc offer any advice regarding how to vacate a judgment. It was only a matter of time before the "vets" ganged up on me. lol
Re: ma bear For the most part, I have found that court clerks will not offer "legal advice", so to speak. However, every court is different and every clerk is different. I had a long discussion and exchange of letters with the person in charge of the Ramsey County Civil Court (in Minnesota) about this subject. We agreed that "legal advice" is hard to define. For example, one could ask "Is there a form available to make a motion to vacate?" You never know how much you can learn unless you ask. Given that each state has different court procedures, IMO, it is a good starting point to check with your local court.
Re: Nestea Appreciate your post, and I will not flame this character anymore. I have a lot of respect for Doc, and do not want to flood his board with a pissing match. IMO, treating people with equal respect is important. IMO, a person with 2 posts deserves as much respect as the person with 20,000 posts. We are both human beings, after all. There is no community unless people treat each other with equal respect. If there is a larger issue here, that is exactly it, and I commented to Butch about it in a separate post. I am positive on every board that I post on, and I will call someone out when their only goal is to be negative. If you link to the threads above, it should be clear to you that this guy humblemarc (who does not appear to be so humble) ignores the initial purpose of the threads. On one thread, he mentions nothing about where to get free credit reports/scores and he offers no advice regarding how to vacate a judgment. Although humblemarc may disagree that phoning a clerk can be helpful, I respectfully disagree. Although humblemarc does not recognize the value of my mentioning a website where one can obtain a free credit report and score when a poster has SPECIFICALLY requested a site where he/she can obtain a free credit report and score[/B}, I respectfully disagree.
Re: Nestea After you say that you won't flame humblemarc again, you go on to finish with more. You have already stated your case. Be DONE with it! Also, if you read past threads from humblemarc, you will notice that he lives up to his name and tag line. I think we all should live up to the respect issue, regardless of the amount of posts. That said, it does help and also shows, if someone has done their homework in regards to reading and educating themselves. By all means, ask questions, but educate yourself first, that way you (or others, myself included) will know something of what is being discussed and can further research the issue. BTW-Doc doesn't own the board, PBM is the only moderator. Doc is a major contributor who gives great advice.
Re: ma bear At least you will never question my persistence, lol. I will defend myself as needed, thanks.
Re: ma bear No, I don't question your persistence. I just think you're beating your head against a rock. Anyone that has knowledge and/or a new way of going about a credit problem are welcomed here. The people here are warm, generous and giving to a fault. Please, feel free to contribute your knowledge, but, if corrected, chalk it down to a learning experience, not a personal attack. As has been said on this board before, this board is anonymous, no one knows who you are, therefore nothing is personal. I am not attacking you, just giving some personal observations. Go have a cup of coffee, a Coke, whatever makes you happy and start again with a fresh perspective. Give the board a chance, it's an invaluable tool.
Re: Nestea That poster specifically asked where they could get an EQUIFAX report and score. Creditexpert is for Experian. You were also wrong on your post about vacating judgements. Let this go, it is an arguement you can't win. Don't bash another user and qualify your posts after the fact. Gib "And that's all I got to say about that."-Forrest Gump
Re: Gib Quote from Gib: "You were also wrong on your post about vacating judgements." ...then I assume that you know the "right" way to vacate a judgment. Funny that I don't see you posting the "right" answer in the thread. Don't you want to help this person out??? I will be waiting for you to post the "right" way to go about vacating a judgment, Gib. I am also waiting for humblemarc to list just a SINGLE of the "many ways" to vacate a judgment. LOL, you guys appear to be frauds, intent on showing up the newbie.
Re: Gib This thread has nothing to do with the other. You started this thread to "chastise" someone for correcting you. Well, you were wrong. I will reply choose which threads I wish to reply to. Gib "Never get into a battle of wits with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience."
Re: Gib So don't you want to help the poster out by telling him/her the "right" way to vacate a judgment? Or are you going to hold back with your wealth of knowledge? I am exposing you, fraud. You don't know how to vacate a judgment, do you? You just wanna sit back and tell newbie that he is "wrong".
Re: ma bear It is actually illegal for a court clerk to give legal advice. There is probably even a sign posted in the clerk's office at your courthouse stating this.
Re: Gib Quote from Gib: "I will reply choose which threads I wish to reply to." Come on now, fraud. If you have time to get into a pissing match that has nothing to do with you, I certainly hope that you have time to share your knowledge re vacating judgments with a poster. Come on now...put yourself on the line and show us what you know about vacating judgments.
Re: Jeff Two points in response, and this is reality: 1) "Legal advice" is not clearly defined. I cited several examples above that illustrate this. 2) As you know, there is a difference between the "law" and how squarely people follow the "law". There is a balance that has to be struck between not providing legal advice and giving citizens enough information so that they can bring their claims. IMO, no harm in asking a court clerk for advice that is not squarely "legal advice". If they can't help, so be it, nothing lost.
Re: Gib If you want legal advice you cannot ask the judge. You will need to talk with an attorney. To vacate a judgment you will need to make a motion before the court. On what grounds do you believe the judgment should be vacated?