Inquiries

Discussion in 'Credit Talk' started by ihcfan, Mar 16, 2003.

  1. ihcfan

    ihcfan Active Member

    I just dropped 44 points due to inquires, and my wife dropped 46 (exp). All are related to "hard" inquiries from debt collectors. Are hard inquiries allowed for debt collection purposes?
     
  2. GEORGE

    GEORGE Well-Known Member

    Many say they are allowed to...even though you DID NOT "APPLY" for any credit cards or loans...

    I WOULD DISPUTE THEM WITH THE CRA'S~~"I NEVER APPLIED FOR ANY LOAN OR CREDIT CARD WITH THIS COMPANY...PLEASE REMOVE"
     
  3. LKH

    LKH Well-Known Member

    George, the FCRA also makes a point to say a pulling a report for collection purposes in a permissable purpose.
     
  4. ihcfan

    ihcfan Active Member

    But is a "hard" inquiry permissible?
     
  5. LKH

    LKH Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: Inquiries

    Yes.
     
  6. GEORGE

    GEORGE Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: Inquiries

    ...BUT WHAT DO YOU GET WITH A "HARD" THAT YOU DON'T GET WITH A "SOFT" OTHER THAN A LOWER SCORE???
     
  7. DISPUTER

    DISPUTER Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: Re: Inquiries


    You know...that is a good question...They do it just to hurt your score.
     
  8. LKH

    LKH Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: Re: Inquiries

    I completely agree with you.
     
  9. ihcfan

    ihcfan Active Member

    Re: Re: Re: Inquiries

    I absolutely can't imagine a C/A is allowed to pull a "hard" report every day, or once a month, when trying to collect. Geeze, even DIS only pulls soft reports when doing background investigations. So what's to prevent them from "permissably" pulling a hard report once a month, forever?
     
  10. ihcfan

    ihcfan Active Member

    Re: Re: Re: Inquiries

    perhaps we need a better definition of "hard" and "soft". I was under the impression that a "hard" report was authorized by the consumer seeking credit, whereas a "soft" report was permissible to credit-granting or other agencies that were trying to drum up business.
     
  11. GEORGE

    GEORGE Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Inquiries

    A "HARD" is when "YOU" apply for a credit card or loan...

    A "SOFT" is when a "COMPANY" is looking to drum up business...

    Since you DID NOT apply for anything with the CA...it should be a "SOFT"...
     
  12. ihcfan

    ihcfan Active Member

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Inquiries

    okay...after some research...

    603(m) Appears to allow Creditors to procure the report based on the definition below.

    Credit or insurance transaction that is not initiated by the consumer. The term "credit or insurance transaction that is not initiated by the consumer" does not include the use of a consumer report by a person with which the consumer has an account or insurance policy, for the purposes of (1) revieiwing the aco**** or insurance policy; or (2) collecting the account.

    604(c) Appears to limit the reporting agency from reporting "soft" inquires.

    However, 603(m) doesn't expressly allow reporting of "creditor" based inquires, nor does 604(c).
     
  13. LKH

    LKH Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Inquiries

    Did you see this section?


    § 604. Permissible purposes of consumer reports [15 U.S.C. § 1681b]

    (a) In general. Subject to subsection (c), any consumer reporting agency may furnish a consumer report under the following circumstances and no other:

    (1) In response to the order of a court having jurisdiction to issue such an order, or a subpoena issued in connection with proceedings before a Federal grand jury.

    (2) In accordance with the written instructions of the consumer to whom it relates.
    (3) To a person which it has reason to believe

    (A) intends to use the information in connection with a credit transaction involving the consumer on whom the information is to be furnished and involving the extension of credit to, or review or collection of an account of, the consumer; or
     
  14. jlynn

    jlynn Well-Known Member

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