Interesting Capital One Story...

Discussion in 'Credit Talk' started by c5kirk, May 8, 2002.

  1. c5kirk

    c5kirk Well-Known Member

    Just came across this story on an Everquest website that I frequent and thought it was interesting. Anyone else ever heard of this?

    "Yeah I know this has nothing to do with EQ or DAoC, and I'm not normally one to use this as a pulpit for things like this, but after a couple of hours on the phone on this, I figured I would give people a heads up about this company's practice.

    I have (soon will have had) a Capital One Credit Card. You know the one with those cute "what's in your wallet" commercials. It's actually under my wife's name, which has some bearing on this. Well today I get a call from "Rod" from "The Account Solutions Group", a collection agency, stating that our credit card payment is overdue. Amazed, I tell him that this is impossible, since I pay the card off each month and in fact just sent in a payment last week. He of course insists, in very strong and insistant terms, that we owe Capital One money. Basically, he was rude as hell. Well after much hassle back and forth from him, I finally get out of him that he is looking for a "Tony Moyer", male, born in 1979, instead of "Toni Moyer", female, born in 1965.

    Great. So I figure it's just a stupid, if unpleasant, mistake. Nevertheless, to be safe, I call Capital One to make sure they do not have us listed as delinquent and that our credit rating has not been affected. After the usual wait on hold and a transfer, I finally get to "Kevin" of customer service. He tells me that there should be no problem with our credit report since the account would be under a different social security number. But I insist he look further since someone got our number to call us and harass us, so I figure someone thought that was our account. Then he says the most amazing thing: that if they can't track down the actual debtor, the collection ageny will typically pull every phone number in Capitol One's database with the same name as the person who owes them money and call them all to try to collect their debt. I'm like "are you saying that just because some Tony Moyer in Podunk owes you money, you called us and accused us of being delinquent?" Basically yes. There were 15 variations of Toni Moyer in their database and apparantly they called them all over this single debt. They didn't call us by mistake as much as mistakenly called us. He claimed that was the price we are supposed to pay for getting that low interest rate. So of course I told him to cancel my account.

    Then, after I had hung up, it occured to me that a company this unscrupulous and unethical could not be trusted to not somehow mess with our credit rating, so I decided I had better get a letter from them confirming that our credit with them was fine just to have on file somewhere. Plus, I had to make sure what he told me was truly correct, because it seemed so incredulous to me. So I called back and eventually got to 'Nancy" in customer service. Yes indeed she confirmed, we will call everyone necessary to collect a debt. "Even if the age, sex, and social security number all don't match?" You bet. That is apparantly a company policy. I believe the exact quote was "Capital One will do whatever is necessary to collect a debt". Apparantly even if it means hassling people who have absolutely no connection to the debtor beyond a similar name.

    So if you are considering getting a Capital One credit card, keep in mind that if anyone with your name owes them money, you can expect to get a similar phone call from a collection agency accusing you of not paying your debts. In addition, I ask you to consider this. If they will use the information you provide them in this unsavory manner, how else will they use it? I of course only know about this incident, but do you want to take the chance that this is the only way they will twist your data? Is this the type of company you want to deal with? You may want to consider a different company, and if you currently have a Capital One Card, you may want to consider another option before you too get a call like this."

    http://everquest.allakhazam.com/news/sdetail877.html?story=877
     
  2. Dani

    Dani Well-Known Member

    What a story, but I believe it. I had a collection company call me a year ago, asking for someone who had the same name as me - they had my name, address, SSN, everything except the DOB. Well, come to find out they weren't looking for me, but someone who purchased a Honda in 1993 and defaulted on it. Well in 1993 I wasn't eligible for a driver's license, much less a car loan. The only thing that saved me was the middle name and year of birth were different.

    Kind of freaky that they can pull up a database and find out everything about you.
    Big Brother knows everything. Privacy? Ha!

    Dani
     
  3. Rina

    Rina Well-Known Member

    No scruples, whatsoever!

    But then we're talking about a big conglomerate...
     
  4. milkmom

    milkmom Well-Known Member

    It doesn't surprise me at all... unfortunately it seems that it's not enough to make a profit but these companies feel the need to fleece it's customers. It always shocks me when I read about how these companies fleece us.
     
  5. Nave

    Nave Well-Known Member

    I just received a privacy notice concerning this exact topic in my last Cap1 statement. Here is an excerpt:

    SAFEGUARDING YOUR PRIVACY
    Your opt-out choices

    You may tell us not to:
    - disclose information about you outside our corporate group of companies except where required by law.

    - Disclose credit data (financial data from CRA's)

    - solicit you by mail, telephone, or email for products that are not directly related to your account

    TO OPT OUT call toll free 1(888) 817-2970
    HEARING IMPAIRED 1(800) 206-7986
    or by Internet: Http://preferences.capitalone.com
    The Internet link appears to be for opting out of email spam, but I did not go through the whole process, you may be able to opt-out of everything that way...I would call the toll free number though to be sure you are truly "opted out"

    So before you go knocking CapOne for disclosing information that is probably allowable from your contract with them (in the terms somewhere) try opting out.

    -Peace, Dave
     
  6. lbrown59

    lbrown59 Well-Known Member

    1*They probably collected this same debt from 3 or 4 of them.What a Racket!

    2*I'm not sure that other compaines are not the same way.
     

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