Duncer: May I ask you what your post has to do with the problem my mil is having with being hounded by the bill collectors. Is this the kind of advice people want on how to deal with bill collectors. I don't much care about what your opinion is of me. But if you are any kind of a man you could at least extend some courtise to MIL and show her a little respect no matter what your opinion of me. Are you man enough to do that or will you come back on me with more of your mockery instead? PS Should I forward your great advice to her so as to offend her and allow her to warn all the folks she knows to stay away from the board.?
Doc you commited the killer error that most people making when they say something is 'begging the question'. begging the question is when lbrown says that 'there's a conspiracy against me' and offers as evidence 'people in the post office are conspiring against me!' begging the question is a type of fallacy...just thought you'd like to know...
Sweet you need to go back and read the original post on this. At no time did I ever say the post office conspired against me. Asa matter of fact the icident had nothing to do with me. The matter concerned my MIL. People should get their facts straight before mouthing off.
Aha, sweet21510, that makes sense -- thanks for clarifying. I always did say the phrase "that begs the question" without fully understanding it. So if I'm understanding fully, another example of begging the question would be if lbrown59 says something like, "A CA left a message on my MIL's answering machine that told her to call a $1.99 directory assistance product" and then followed up by saying something like "Why should she pay $1.99 to find out Mr. Meyer's affiliated with the CA" -- i.e., the illogical circularity "begs the question"... On the other hand, this discussion itself DOESN'T beg the question. Am I doing better? Doc P.S. lbrown59, I believe sweet21510 is harkening back to your posting last month (link) where you wrote, "Could it be some people don't get their green cards back because the CAs have a plant in the local post office that destroys them before they can be mailed out?" (By the way, this event was covered on CNN, I believe, here.)
oh lbrown, c'mon!!!!!!!!!!! I was finishing up my taxes and needed a good giggle and it WAS funny. You've received good and serious answers to your questions, no one thinks it's funny that your friend is getting hounded or asked to pay $1.99 to return a phone call. Have you considered any of the options or fcra/fdcpa sections suggested so far?
Ibrown59, It's Dancer, not Duncer. I'm assuming that's yet another spelling error, rather than a third-grade rejoinder. The source of this belief lies in the evidence of your further typo's.(ie:courtise=courtesy?) As for my courtesy, I believe I initially suggested that they might be trying to hit you with an inflated bill-per-minute and that you not call the number but rather provide the information to your State Attorney General's office. I still maintain that to be an advisable course of action. Now that your question has been answered, let's cover some of the humorous aspects of the postings, of which there are indeed many: "Chill bro'! I'm only saying this because I care, but there are lots of brands out there with just as much taste and a whole lot less caffeine." Regards, Dancer Relax
Another way to think of begging a question is to think of the question as being answered by a simple rephrasing of the question itself. You have it basically right, the only thing is the question is asked first, followed by the empty reply, which 'begs the question'. This used to drive my philosophy professor nuts, and when I had him for practical reasoning it was one of the first things he talked about, and was also on the final exam.
You know if we all eat ENOUGH beans I believe we can keep those Ruskies out of our sewer pipes if you know what I mean.....
