Is this verification or validation?

Discussion in 'Credit Talk' started by here again, Aug 7, 2004.

  1. here again

    here again Active Member

    Ohio court tells plaintiff to either get history of payment or copy of original contract to get judgement.

    OC has attorney.

    Is one without the other validation?
    Hearing is set in 12 days. Help please.
     
  2. bizwiz41

    bizwiz41 Well-Known Member

    This is "validation". Validation is for Collection Agencies, to "validate" a debt, and the fact that you owe it. "Verification" is for an "Original Creditor" (OC), to "verify" information reported to a Credit Reporting Agency.

    In your case, the judge is asking for "validation" of the debt.
     
  3. here again

    here again Active Member

    So a computer print out of payment history is sufficient validation to get a judgement? Since this is the OC using their attorney, it would not be worth my effort to show up and ask they show contract I signed?
     
  4. fun4u2

    fun4u2 Well-Known Member

    ask a lawyer a free legal question in your state

    lawguru.com
     
  5. jam237

    jam237 Well-Known Member

    The judge isn't asking for validation, or verification...

    The judge is simply saying, look you have got to prove to me, this account exists, and that the amount is accurate, I am not going to award you a judgement, sight unseen.

    If it is a type of an account which there would typically be something in writing, with your signature, and they can provide the account statements, that the judge is asking for.

    You could still challenge, how do those statements show, with a purponderance of the evidence, that this is allegedly my account. i.e. They may have provided proof of the existance of the alleged account, but not who the alleged account belongs to.
     
  6. lbrown59

    lbrown59 Well-Known Member

    1*I will send you 5 computer print outs all different.
    Which one is the right one which one do you pay?What if it's none of the 5.????????????
    2*Smart move ; give them an automatic default judgment.
     
  7. lbrown59

    lbrown59 Well-Known Member

    statements, don't really prove much
    due to the error factor.
     
  8. jam237

    jam237 Well-Known Member

    An educated consumer can beat virtually any attorney, if they are persistant, and adament about defending their rights.

    Just look through the posts here, to see the consumers who have won against skilled litigation attorneys, on both the defendant, and plaintiff sides of the court.

    Everyone here, was once a newbie, the difference is that the members who have become the 'experts' have been persistant in learning, and following up.

    The lawyers case is only as strong as the evidence that their client can provide. If their client can't provide anything, the lawyer doesn't have a case, no matter how good that lawyer may happen to be.
     

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