In another post someone stated: 'If their "mini miranda" warning merely states: "This is an attempt to collect a debt and any information obtained will be used for that purpose", and omits ANYWHERE in the letter that they are a "debt collector", I'd immediately file suit in federal court for violation of 15 USC 1692e(11).' I sent a standard VD today to a CA & noticed this in another thread later. There is no mention anywhere of 'debt collector'in the initial letter to me.... Trying to rack up voilations for the next letter CA DOLA:8/1998 OC DOLA: 6/1998 (also varies on CRs) Terms: 1 month ( disappeared from CRs now that they have my correct address & are trying to collect) Thanks for any input S23