NCO Falsifying Last Payment Date

Discussion in 'Credit Talk' started by SoCloseNow, Mar 21, 2006.

  1. SoCloseNow

    SoCloseNow Member

    I have been paying off debts and cleaning up my credit since September. I've gone from a 473 to a 599 with more deletions pending, I am getting there but noticed a new problem today....

    NCO Financial has had an MBNA Checkmate account of mine for years. I can trace back to 2003 on old report that states:

    - Assigned to NCO 08/2001
    - Amount Assigned $2336.00
    - Item as of date reported 10/2003
    - Amount Due $3719.00
    - Date of Last Activity being 07/2000.

    Fast forward to May 2005 - on another credit report, I find them listed w/the same account that states:

    - Item as of date reported 05/2005
    - Amount of $4966
    - Date of Last Activity 07/2000
    - Date of Last Payment 01/2005

    Today -- 03/22/06 I am going over my Equifax report that I received yesterday and find the following:

    - Item as of date reported: 02/2006
    - Amount of $2670.00
    - Date of Last Activity n/a
    - Date of Last Payment 02/2006

    Notice The Balance Went Down??? I have NOT made any payments to this account. I do not intend to do so as it would start the SOL all over again and this should drop from my report 05/2007.

    But will NCO reporting payments made, that I have not made affect my SOL after all?

    Any help, suggestions, etc. would be greatly appreciated.
     
  2. ontrack

    ontrack Well-Known Member

    Be aware that NCO was caught illegally "re-aging" reported information, and as part of their consent decree, they agreed to stop doing that. Perhaps you should bring this to the attention of the FTC.

    See the FTC complaint:
    http://www.ftc.gov/os/caselist/9923012/040513ncocmp9923012.pdf

    Here is the consent decree:
    http://www.ftc.gov/os/caselist/9923012/040513ncoco9923012.pdf

    Here is the press release:
    http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2004/05/ncogroup.htm

    "For Release: May 13, 2004

    NCO Group to Pay Largest FCRA Civil Penalty to Date

    One of the nation�s largest debt-collection firms will pay $1.5 million to settle Federal Trade Commission charges that it violated the Fair Credit Reporting Act (FCRA) by reporting inaccurate information about consumer accounts to credit bureaus. The civil penalty against Pennsylvania-based NCO Group, Inc. is the largest civil penalty ever obtained in a FCRA case.

    According to the FTCââ?¬â?¢s complaint, defendants NCO Group, Inc.; NCO Financial Systems, Inc.; and NCO Portfolio Management, Inc. violated Section 623(a)(5) of the FCRA, which specifies that any entity that reports information to credit bureaus about a delinquent consumer account that has been placed for collection or written off must report the actual month and year the account first became delinquent. In turn, this date is used by the credit bureaus to measure the maximum seven-year reporting period the FCRA mandates. The provision helps ensure that outdated debts ââ?¬â?? debts that are beyond this seven-year reporting period ââ?¬â?? do not appear on a consumerââ?¬â?¢s credit report. Violations of this provision of the FCRA are subject to civil penalties of $2,500 per violation.

    The FTC charges that NCO reported accounts using later-than-actual delinquency dates. Reporting later-than-actual dates may cause negative information to remain in a consumer�s credit file beyond the seven-year reporting period permitted by the FCRA for most information. When this occurs, consumers� credit scores may be lowered, possibly resulting in their rejection for credit or their having to pay a higher interest rate.

    The proposed consent decree orders the defendants to pay civil penalties of $1.5 million and permanently bars them from reporting later-than-actual delinquency dates to credit bureaus in the future. Additionally, NCO is required to implement a program to monitor all complaints received to ensure that reporting errors are corrected quickly. The consent agreement also contains standard recordkeeping and other requirements to assist the FTC in monitoring the defendants� compliance.
    ..."
     
  3. ontrack

    ontrack Well-Known Member

    Falsifying the last payment date could hypothetically work to the advantage of a CA in several ways:

    1) It could be used to convince a debtor that the debt is within SOL, to make a threat to sue appear both legal and credible. That also has the advantage of discouraging disputes, even if the consumer has the legal right to dispute, since disputing may appear likely to provoke a lawsuit if the debt appears to be within SOL.

    2) It could affect FICO scores more negatively than the actual accurate last payment date, since it shows recent activity associated with a collection account.

    3) It could make a debt appear within SOL, and therefore more valuable to a new debt buyer.

    4) It could possibly accomplish the above, while sidestepping any specific agreement terms not to re-age based on the first date of delinquency. ("We didn't know you meant THAT field. It was just an accident." Ollie North's old "plausible deniability".)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plausible_deniability
     
  4. SoCloseNow

    SoCloseNow Member

    Thank you very much for the information. Would it be appropriate to report this to the Bureaus or just let it lie until it falls off next May?

    All the Best!
     
  5. ontrack

    ontrack Well-Known Member

    They are supposed to be maintaining compliance and monitoring systems to prevent this sort of error. You can't know for sure what they are up to, but you don't have to wait until they spring it. It may come off in a year, but if they are monkeying with the dates, how can you count on it?

    Because of the past record of illegally reporting dates, you should probably both dispute thru the CRAs as inaccurate, and simultaneously file complaints with your state AG, and the FTC. That puts their actions on record, and visible to the appropriate regulatory agencies responsible for enforcing both law and settlement agreements. It is possible the CA might then find it in their best interest to notify you they are "closing" your account and removing the TL, just to make the issue go away.

    If you see people casing your house day after day, you call the police. You don't wait until they break in. And knowing they have a record of burglary only tips your decision toward taking action before they succeed.
     
  6. SoCloseNow

    SoCloseNow Member

    Your point is well taken, my friend. Will Do! Thank you again!
     
  7. SoCloseNow

    SoCloseNow Member

    Update: I've just learned that NCO turned me over to a collection attorney in Las Vegas, Nevada (I used to live there) who filed a judgement in July.

    When I told the attorney that the last activity on that account was in 2000 she confirmed BUT said that the state of Nevada, statute of limitations was 6 years.

    According to everything that I can find, it is 4 years on revolving accounts. Am I missing something?

    Can they file a judgement after the statute of limitations for collections has passed?

    Finally, I have not lived in Nevada for going on 3 years, I have not received any notification from the courts of a judgment but when I called the court gave me the case number. Do I have to answer this?

    Thanks Again!
     
  8. ontrack

    ontrack Well-Known Member

    If you were not served, that may be a reason to void the judgement.

    SOL may, or may not, be as the attorney said. If they sued, and obtained a judgement, knowing it was past SOL, that may be an additional FDCPA violation.

    If so, you might be able to void the judgement, assert a defense of SOL, and possibly collect damages and attorney fees to cover your costs.

    If they obtained a judgement without proper service, you can't trust anything else they tell you. The "recent payments" on your credit report might reflect what the real SOL was. It might have actually expired, and the CA might have thought it necessary to allege that the SOL was reset, in order to support filing suit, which implies it might have actually passed. Yet this attorney claims he knew the actual last payment date.

    SOL defense has to be raised by you, so suing after SOL is most effective if you have no way to raise it. If then you believe you could not have raised that defense anyway, game over.

    This attorney does not represent you. You need to talk to one who does.

    You should run this by an FDCPA attorney.
     
  9. SoCloseNow

    SoCloseNow Member

    Thank you again. No, I was NOT served on any judgement. Plus, the attorney told me they filed in Decemeber. Upon speaking w/the court, they stated it was actually filed in July...

    Here's the Kicker! My 'case number' or name (except my Nevada divorce ;-) is not in the Las Vegas, Clark County online system... Even went thru 'all' of the NCO files with nothing... it just keeps getting deeper ;-|

    GETTING DOWN TO MY SOL....

    I have moved around a lot since opening and defaulting on the original account, MBNA.

    Arkansas (original state about 1 year)
    Nevada (about 3 years)
    California (about 1 year)
    Indiana (going on 2 years - current)

    The mystery judgement attorney told me they filed the judgement in Las Vegas and stated the SOL was based on Nevada law (6 years).

    So, what state SOL applies?
     
  10. ontrack

    ontrack Well-Known Member

    That is why you need to see an attorney.

    You have 2 paths:

    1) Pay the judgement, and have it on your reports for a number of years.
    2) Possibly vacating the judgement, and if it is SOL, they can't sue. It falls off your reports in about a year.

    Is the difference between these 2 outcomes worth seeing an attorney?
     

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