Off topic, sort of: I hate IE 6

I always use Netscape. Unfortunatly, since more and more companies out there are using Microsoft products to produce their web sites, and the Microsoft products place artifacts that are not standard HTML which are designed to crash web browsers not built by Microsoft, I may have to change to excessivly clunky IE. Oh yea, I use Netscape 7.1, the latest.

 

Try this:

Opera

www.operasoftware.com

It has a setting you can turn on to make webservers think it is IE 6.

 

It runs pretty stable for me. It has definitely gotten better over the last few releases.

My bookmarked crack site has a crack for the latest version.

 

Actually, most web designers don't use MIC products to create web pages, though many do utilize ASP (but BOA uses cgi). Many web designers code by hand without an application and many designers who do use application to design use Macromedia Products.

There are problems when designing for all browsers, but HTML coding for Netscape is a royal pain in the $ss, especially NN4.75 and below, because NN4 hasd a lot of bugs and it doesn't behave the way it should, even with things that were created by the Netscape people -- such as javascript and cascading style sheets (both of which are used extensively on BOA's site). A lot of things you would need to do on sites that provide interaction with users, such as online banking, don't work in NN4.75 and below because of NN4.75 (and lower) bugs or because the capability was just never built in. it's not cost effective for companies to spend a lot of time trying to create work-arounds for NN4's non-compliance problems and bugs. NN6 and up are supposed to be much better borwsers with much better support.

I don't like Micro's empire on things, but as someone who codes web pages and spends a lot of time using both those browsers, i can't stand coding for NN4. Some days i want to rip my hair out because it's acting wacky.

What operating system (OS) are you on? I WOULD NOT use IE 5.5 to do your online banking from home without a firewall. IE 5.5 has A LOT of security issues, which were addressed in IE6+ (especially if you are using a broadband connection). XP itself has security drama frequently, but you can download the security patches on a constant basis to ensure the safety of your recrods. definitely get a firewall if you do any online banking from home and especially if you are on a boradband connection (you can get a free one from zone labs -- zonealarm) and XP comes with a firewall, too (though ZA is better).

You can also try to access BOA using NN7 and see if it will work. you can also go to mozilla's site and download the Phoenix browser (it lets you block pop-up ads) and see if it will work.

Don't know why your IE6 is running clunky for you unless you are on a old system or a Mac. I would need to know what it is doing to tell you how to fix it. there really shouldn't be any problems with IE6 and up.

rumors have it that both "companies" are going to get out of the business of creating browsers (don't know who is gonna take over).

toby

 

Re: Re: Off topic, sort of: I hate IE 6

 

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  > Every month around this time I install Internet
  > Explorer 6 so I can pay my BofA bill online. BofA
  > requires IE 5.5 and above to access features on
  > their website. I don't want IE 5.5 because it is too
  > buggy. So after I pay my bill I uninstall IE 6 and
  > continue browsing with IE 5. It so much quicker
  > and less chunky than IE 6. Which browser do you
  > guys use?

I'm running Windows 2000 Server with MSIE 6, 128KB encryption. Never had any problems logging to a CC site, paying bills online, etc.

• 
  > Unfortunatly, since more and more companies out
  > there are using Microsoft products to produce their
  > web sites, and the Microsoft products place
  > artifacts that are not standard HTML which are
  > designed to crash web browsers not built by
  > Microsoft, I may have to change to excessivly
  > clunky IE.

Not entirely accurate. MSIE supports all standards set by http://www.w3.org ... Netscape doesn't. Yes, MSIE uses many of the Windows shared dll files, while Netscape cannot use them, because Microsoft doesn't care about the open source idea.

The fact is that you can create a very functional, "user-friendly" website for MSIE, whie for Netscape you can create a website which will look as it's been created few years ago.

Another bad Microsoft side - Netscape crashes itself on Windows 2000 ...

• 
  > I don't like Micro's empire on things, but as
  > someone who codes web pages and spends a lot
  > of time using both those browsers, i can't stand
  > coding for NN4. Some days i want to rip my hair
  > out because it's acting wacky.

Can't agree more ... Many companies which really, really want cross browser enabled website use a simple javascript code to define the browser being used and to redirect you to the proper version on their website, meaning - they develop and keep at least two different websites, one for MSIE, one for Netscape. Not to mention AOL browser, Web TV, etc. It's a living hell ...

• 
  > Btw, I use Pop Up Ad Filter cracked and it works
  > perfectly. I never see a pop up but I love hearing
  > that little beep whenever it kills another one

If you guys ever run into these annoying popups which open when you close another one - hit the "ESC" button repeatedly. This will stop the loading of the javascript code of the new window (which actually causes the opening of another new window) and once you close it - that's it, no more popups.

Just my 2 cents ...