OT-buying gap ins from car dealer

Discussion in 'Credit Talk' started by QUEEN_BEE, May 7, 2003.

  1. QUEEN_BEE

    QUEEN_BEE Well-Known Member

    When I dealer-financed my last car, I bought gap ins from the dealer. They included it in the initial contract they drew up (I ended up with a different lender bc I was hard to finance with a repo). It only costed $200.00 and was rolled into the financing.

    Is that normal or did I get jipped?
     
  2. Why Chat

    Why Chat Well-Known Member

    It depends, who has your regular car insurance? Did you opt for the "full pay" provision in your comp./col.?.

    If so, you may have duplicate (and unneccessary) coverage.
     
  3. QUEEN_BEE

    QUEEN_BEE Well-Known Member

    I have full coverage but I did not opt for ins to pay the loan off in the event the car was totalled, they would only pay the book value and the balance would be paid by the gap ins that I bought from the dealer that I hope really exists. The only proof of the gap ins I was given is the gap ins line item in the contract - no separate policy documents. That's what sounds fishy to me.
     
  4. REInvestor

    REInvestor Well-Known Member

    I have gap insurance on my auto policy with Allstate and it costs me $6.00 every 6 months.
     
  5. ppt3

    ppt3 Well-Known Member

    $200 for a gap policy is a good price. Normally the cost is $295 to $595. The dealer will have a paper copy of the gap policy. You could call them to get a copy it should be in your deal bag.Gap can be a great value if your vehicle is declared a total loss, I would advise it on new cars if there is little down pmt or high interest contracts or when you trade in a vehicle with negative equity.
     
  6. kj

    kj Well-Known Member

    How does gap insurance benefit anyone "when you trade in a vehicle with negative equity" ?? I don't understand.

     
  7. ppt3

    ppt3 Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: OT-buying gap ins from car dealer

    example; You trade in your car worth $7k but you still owe $10k, add in tt&l, doc fee's etc... You would be in the hole about $4k right off the bat. Now figure what your paying for your new car compared to book value. Unless you put down at least $4k cash or bought the car $4k under trade in value your gonna be in the hole. Let's say you put down $1k cash, 2months later your new car is stolen or totaled. The insurance will only pay trade in value, They don't care what you paid for the vehicle. Your still obligated to the bank $3k. gap would cover that.

    "Of course if there is no accident or car is not stolen then gap is useless."
     
  8. QUEEN_BEE

    QUEEN_BEE Well-Known Member

    Good news

    I found my gap policy paperwork. Its' amazing just how much this $200 can do for you if you ever need it.
     
  9. lbrown59

    lbrown59 Well-Known Member

    Re: Good news

    If you pay more than the insurance will cover then you paid more for the car than it was worth.
     
  10. QUEEN_BEE

    QUEEN_BEE Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: Good news

    I am lost. What do you mean?
     
  11. lbrown59

    lbrown59 Well-Known Member

    Re: Good news

    The insurance will only pay trade in value
    ppt3
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    This is not correct.
    THE END ** *** ** LB 59
     
  12. QUEEN_BEE

    QUEEN_BEE Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: Good news

    They pay the book value, don't they?
     
  13. lbrown59

    lbrown59 Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: Re: Good news

    They settle based on ACV.
     
  14. kj

    kj Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: Re: OT-buying gap ins from car dealer

    This is what I wanted to hear.

     
  15. QUEEN_BEE

    QUEEN_BEE Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Good news

    What does ACV stand for?
     
  16. lbrown59

    lbrown59 Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Good news

    ACTUAL Cash Value.

    This is why one should never pay anything over that for any car new or used because you will the loose difference if the car is totaled or stolen.

    And there is no gap insurance to cover this.

    Also if you pay over acv you are in effect buying an auto that can not be insured.
     
  17. lbrown59

    lbrown59 Well-Known Member

    Re : Good news

    quote:
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    Originally posted by lbrown59
    If you pay more than the insurance will cover then you paid more for the car than it was worth.
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    I am lost. What do you mean?
    QUEEN_BEE
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    If the ACV on a car is say 10000 that is all the insurer will pay for a total loss because that is all the car is worth.
    If you paid 15000 for it you're out 5000 because you paid more for the car than it was worth.
    You are in effect paying 5000 for a car that you can't insure.

    On the other hand if you buy this car for 8000 and it gets totaled the insurer will still pay you the ACV i.e. 10000 in which case you come out ahead.

    This is also a good way to tell if a dealer is overpricing a car.
    One other tip you should never have to pay anywhere near ACV to buy a car.

    Here is another trick I use when I make an offer on a car. There is always
    another dealer who will offer me a comparable car for less than this dealer
    at or near the amount I offered this dealer for his car.
    THE END ** *** ** LB 59
     
  18. QUEEN_BEE

    QUEEN_BEE Well-Known Member

    Re : Good news

    outstanding balance - ACV = amount that gap ins pays = nothing out of my pocket
     
  19. pnwman

    pnwman Well-Known Member

    Re : Good news

    Great post LB!
     
  20. lbrown59

    lbrown59 Well-Known Member

    Re: Re : Good news

    Not sure I follow you here.
    Please show an example.
     

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