Providian

Discussion in 'Credit Talk' started by Bill B, Jul 23, 2002.

  1. Bill B

    Bill B Well-Known Member

    Is A Buy
     
  2. Slayer

    Slayer Well-Known Member

    so was ENE, WCOM, DYN, etc... a buy at $2.84? Unless you plan on buying it hoping for a bounce and a quick trade, I would stay away from it. It's trading under $3 for a reason. Rule number one: never catch a falling knife.
     
  3. dogman

    dogman Well-Known Member

    I don't have the stomach for the risk with Providian or WCOM. QWEST might be a buy at $3.00.

    WCOM is .19 - will it recover?
    I am out of equities when the dow was 8900.
    Glad I switched.

    dogman
     
  4. Bill B

    Bill B Well-Known Member

    I put $500 on pvn at $2.57..I don't have tons of money but if i can double the 500 i will be happy..,And i think it will happent too.
     
  5. DaveLV

    DaveLV Well-Known Member

    Honestly I think we'll see a rebound of all companies who certify their books by August 14th like the administrations is asking. I think PVN is one of the companies being asked to certify.

    With all of their disclosures these last months I think it's a pretty good bet they'll certify and you'll see a dramatic uptick in their stock price. If you buy in the mid-twos I think you'll be a happy camper.
     
  6. keepmine

    keepmine Well-Known Member

    I think "D-Day" for Providian will be on 7/30 when they report there earnings. If that default rate is still double digits, I think there is a real question of there ability to survive.
     
  7. Bill B

    Bill B Well-Known Member

    I have made 12% so far today..Keep going up pvn..I think this stock will be back up to $6-7 in August
     
  8. jrjr35

    jrjr35 Well-Known Member

    i'm not so sure bill...good luck
     
  9. Bill B

    Bill B Well-Known Member

    Providian Gold Card was my wifes first card..We have had it for 48 months now and is still open with a $6400.00 limit and intrest is at 16.99%./...I just keep it open because it is the oldest trade line.,However that annual fee is due and they waived it last year..So should we keep this open or close it if they want the $$..Or i could always just pay them with the $$ i made from there stock today..Gain of 16.60% = $64.45
     
  10. Cadillac408

    Cadillac408 Well-Known Member

    What about taxes????
     
  11. Bill B

    Bill B Well-Known Member

    That is a good question..Never bought and sold stock befor.
     
  12. GEORGE

    GEORGE Well-Known Member

    <BUMP>

    F.Y.I. this was a DOUBLE POST...

    NOT MISSING RESPONSES...
     
  13. Cadillac408

    Cadillac408 Well-Known Member

    So wouldn't it be $64.45 minus 40% gains taxes???
     
  14. Bill B

    Bill B Well-Known Member

    You have got to be kidding me..40% that is alot! Well when i won at foxwoods they took like 30%..I guess H&R Blook will be getting extra's this year
     
  15. Nave

    Nave Well-Known Member

    Capital gains taxes are less if you hold the stock for a year...that's why day trading with broker fees and taxes is ridiculous (IMO).

    -Peace, Dave
     
  16. erik776

    erik776 Well-Known Member

    QWEST is supposed to be the next telco to file BK 11. Rule number two: Never bye a stock that triads under $10. If you want to gamble purchase options either for (call) on DIA or against (PUT) QQQ.
     
  17. cinderella

    cinderella Well-Known Member

    For short term gains (less than one year) you should be taxed at what you are for your federal tax bracket, which is based on your income....somewhere between 15% and 40%. You just add the amount of gain to your tax returns as part of your total income.

    Capital gains are only taxable federally, not with your state.
     
  18. GEORGE

    GEORGE Well-Known Member

    ON A SIDE NOTE...QWEST and MCI CAN'T GO OUT OF BUSINESS...so the local DENVER news said...(the US GOVERNMENT WON'T LET THEM...they could be sold or given to another company...BUT not just go out of business)...

    QWEST is my local...I DUMPED MCI for VERIZON months ago...
     
  19. erik776

    erik776 Well-Known Member

    Ch 11 BK allows a company to continue to operate. It just means that the common stock becomes worthless and the company can negotiate with the bankruptcy court on the preferred stock, bonds, and other debt.
     
  20. Bill B

    Bill B Well-Known Member

    Well it looks like i get to keep my $$ and don't have to pay that anual fee..They sent me an Upgrade to the Platinum Card w/no fee and a 25 grace period and the rate is 11.99% instead of 16.99%..So providian is doing Good 4 me...It's just to damn bad i sold Friday!
     

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