Rebuild Credit After Bk Read This!!

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  1. jason1971

    jason1971 Banned

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Rebuild Credit After Bk Read This!!

    I'm puting together what I know about FDIC, CRA's, Bankruptcy and other Public information, along with proposals that are going through, the current economy, what the government has started to do about it, stepping in quickly and the Federal laws which will be changing VERY soon about the disputes to the CRA's. I am amazed that some of you "experts" that work in the industry cannot even expose any of this, and admit to others that what maybe worked in the past or very recently will not work but only hurt you in the future!!! Have you checked the stocks of the sub-prime lenders lately, gee I wonder what happened? FDIC issues maybe should change soon? Capitol One, Providian, Direct Merchants Bank (Metris), how has their stock done and what can they do? Aria and Nextcard what happened? FCNB oh ya their O.K right now? Funny they had to change quickly, Cap One is targeting the U.K right now instead. I guess the government hasn't said anything to Providian? O.K those steps are OLD news now, and the next target is the prime lenders that borrow to so-called "prime candidtes"? The deliquencies are going up on prime lenders and why is that? Because of people that trick the system that are not legit candidates for a prime card and get one.CRA(s) will Be held accountable 1st The CRA(S) in the United States will be monitered like NEVER BEFORE and that process is starting very shortly. All the B.S with Forbes top companies in the past will come down this. Someone will be held accountable for these problems and who do you think it will be? Unworthy credit is and will be held accountable to certain people who do you actually think that will be? The consumers of course, the little guys. You people that actually get away with "deleting and smart CRA(S) reporting are the biggest risk to the prime lenders. But will never admit it. Do I actually need to put together the website addresses on this site to prove this? You guys are the biggest reason prime lenders charge even more than they do. Just like the shoplifters that drive up the prices in retail stores to make up for it!!! Do the whole thing legit and easy like it is suppose to be and we will all move on!!!!!!! Otherwise sell your scams in a book or a website and don't come running here to make yourself look like "I know this and I know that" and screw, everyone else over with outdated information!!!!!!!
     
  2. jason1971

    jason1971 Banned

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Rebuild Credit After Bk Read This!!

    By the way can ANYONE help with CURRENT information on the credit cards that are obtainable after a Bankruptcy from issuers of smaller banks??????????????????????????????
     
  3. LKH

    LKH Well-Known Member

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    You are beginning to sound like you work for them. I'm getting a little tired of you calling what we do scams. Why don't you take your b.s. to a board that thinks like you.

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  4. RichGuy

    RichGuy Well-Known Member

    Re: Diagnosis

    Nothing personal, of course, since no person named "Jason1971" ever existed. But here's my diagnosis:

    (1) Illiterate.
    (2) Illogical, incapable of engaging in sequential thought from premises to a conclusion.
    (3) Narcissistic attention seeker, writing anything that is likely to get a response, regardless of whether it agrees with reality or with previous attention-seeking statements.
    (4) Confused, either (a) lacking any purpose in writing, or (b) trying to hide a purpose and justify it at the same time.
    (5) Unbalanced, not in control of emotions, which are being simultaneously expressed, sublimated, repressed, and denied.


    Welcome to Creditnet.
     
  5. picantel

    picantel Well-Known Member

    Re: Diagnosis

    let us all get together and sing ' for he is a jolly great trolllllll'. I love how they come here and offer 'great advice' and then start ragging on people. Usually the smarter trolls wait a few months but I guess jason was itchin to get started sooner.
     
  6. LKH

    LKH Well-Known Member

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    Great analysis "Psych"Richguy. LOL


    You are the new guy on the block. Take your wild imagination elsewhere.
     
  7. handr

    handr Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Rebuild Credit After Bk Read This!!

    Jason, Could you please make your posts just a little bit shorter, And maybe not use so many big words. It is making my head hurt. With an I.Q. under 100 how can i possibly understand what you are saying.










    Alot of people that file Bankruptcy have an I.Q under 100. These people do not have the money or knowledge to understand the correct and upcoming "outdated" methods of pulling this off. They can look at this and think it is easy and step in and battle not prepared or how to handle.
     
  8. mike5000

    mike5000 Active Member

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    I have to say that this is one of the best threads I have read here. Thank you all.
     
  9. jason1971

    jason1971 Banned

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Rebuild Credit After Bk Read This!!

    O.k, I have now read previous new posts on people that are now screwed from these "outdated and soon to be outdated" ways. Funny thing is you "experts" have no replies to these people now having problems that need help after taking your steps. By the way "Richguy" nice post from someone who has an obvious ego 100 times mine "richguy"??? Oh yeah I almost forgot I am a troll so I have no right to respond back or go on this site to help others that are mislead on info that REALLY is outdated. If you think the CRA(S) are the same way when you dealt with them. WOW!!! And if You think you have temperarily gotten away with misleading information for good? WRONG!!!!
     
  10. LKH

    LKH Well-Known Member

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    OK Jason, instead of just spouting off that everything has changed, why don't you tell us just exactly what has changed? Then maybe you'll give your nonsense some credence.

    BTW, a troll is someone who appears, spouts off to cause trouble, disappears, and then reappears at a later date to start again. Sound familiar?

    Also, when did things change so that getting a bk removed is no longe possible? How long ago did this occur?
     
  11. jlynn

    jlynn Well-Known Member

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    Did'ya ever think his name might be Rich or Richard?

    Oh well, everyone knows the old joke about assume.
     
  12. PsychDoc

    PsychDoc Well-Known Member

    Food for Thought

    You cannot "get in trouble" as a result of disputing correct but negative information with the credit reporting agencies. Here's why:

    1) CRA reports do not enjoy the legal status accorded documents of record. A credit bureau file is not held in the same light as a police record, for example. Neither is such a report held in the same light as an application for credit, which is a contract initiation and must be lawfully devoid of fraudulent information. Rather, federal law regards credit bureau reports as being lists of unproven allegations. Federal law regards your CRA file as being nothing more than gossip which remains to be verified.

    2) The FCRA invites consumers to dispute anything on a CRA report and obviously does not require consumers to know in advance the disposition of any dispute (i.e., whether it will be denied as incorrect, accepted as correct, designated "frivolous," etc.). There is no penalty for submitting disputes later deemed "frivolous," although the CRA may return such disputes to the consumer at their discretion.

    3) Having estimated the collective CRA error rate to be between 30% and 60%, PIRG and other credible research organizations attest to the unreliability of the present system where three private companies compete with each other to sell your personal information. Complicating matters, these UNOFFICIAL and OFTEN INACCURATE reports are often used for purposes other than the acquisition and maintenance of new credit which was their original intention (employment, insurance, and other critical matters) and impact a consumer's finances tremendously.

    4) The United States does not require creditors to report to credit reporting agencies. We have a voluntary system. The only extant guidelines are those which limit the MAXIMUM duration of such reports. The only protective guidelines which exist are those which protect the consumer against actions by CRAs and abusive CAs. While bankruptcy tradelines may appear for a maximum duration of 10 years, and non-BK tradelines for a maximum of 7 years (5 in NY), there is no MINIMUM required reporting period mandated by law.

    5) The system is broken and needs to be replaced by a single, government-run entity. Credit scoring algorithms should not be maintained by a private company with strong financial industry ties; rather the formulas should be opened for inspection and utilized singularly. Consumers should not have to fight 3 or more private companies when attempting to deal with such pivotal personal issues. Consumers are not obligated to cooperate with these private companies which buy and sell their personal information on an unofficial basis.

    6) Other statutes do preclude the fraudulent use of Taxpayer Identification Numbers as Social Security Numbers, so misidentifying your SSN to anyone, even a CRA, violates several laws. Being honest about your SSN is your only obligation by law. Pursuant to the federal civil rights outlined under the FCRA, anything else on your report is gossip which can be challenged in any manner the consumer desires, albeit with no guarantee of successful outcome.

    Love and Happy Valley,
    Doc

    P.S. We've not heard "Love and Happy Valley" around here lately, so I thought I'd rectify the lapse.
     
  13. wajaba

    wajaba Well-Known Member

    Re: Food for Thought

    I though it was "Peace, Love, and Happy Valley."

    wajaba
     
  14. jlynn

    jlynn Well-Known Member

    Re: Food for Thought

    Thats a scary thought, but otherwise,

    Great post Doc!
     
  15. PsychDoc

    PsychDoc Well-Known Member

    Re: Food for Thought

    Thank you, jlynn! By the way, regarding overhauling the credit reporting system, how would you like it if police blotters and other official repositories of critical information of record (marriage and death certificates, property ownership titling, etc.) were maintained by three competing, for-profit private sector companies? I agree that the government shouldn't do certain things (run the post office perhaps, etc.), but some things really are run best in the public sector (drivers licenses; the military; etc.), which is why we have a government in the first place. At the very least, I hope you would agree that it doesn't make sense that consumers should have to battle three different entities (and with Innovis, perhaps four, and whoever else joins the fray in the future) in order to confront their credit history.

    Doc
     
  16. LKH

    LKH Well-Known Member

    Re: Food for Thought

    Jason, your post and run behaviour and failure to respond shows you to be a troll. Don't spout off your nonsense and then run. Why not stick around to respond?
     
  17. LKH

    LKH Well-Known Member

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    Who have you helped? You have done nothing but say our methods are outdated, but you haven't told us how to change what we do.

    The word is spelled T-E-M-P-O-R-A-R-I-L-Y.

    Please explain how someone could temporarily get away with something for good? WOW!!! What poor use of the English language.

    How long do you think it will take for the cra's to catch up with my temporary success for good?
     
  18. lbrown59

    lbrown59 Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: Re: Rebuild Credit After Bk Read This!!

    Even when you're accused of murder you can plead "not guilty."

    Of course "credit criminals" don't have rights - They didn't pay their bills, they must be punished forever.
    Breeze
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    Folks know why this is so?
    Real simple:
    Because The Credit criminals are where big business makes the big money.
    There's not much profit for them in murderers, rapist arsonist etc.
    The END ************************* LB 59
     
  19. lbrown59

    lbrown59 Well-Known Member

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    They are "on to this stuff?" they are getting the daylights sued out of them - and settling for DELETIONS because they don't want people to know how sloppy they are, how bad their systems are, and that they don't care if it's right or not, as long as they can sell it.
    breeze
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    Right on Breeze. The same thing I've been saying all along and ironically the same reason you have me on ignore.LOL
    The END ************************* LB 59
     
  20. lbrown59

    lbrown59 Well-Known Member

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    E D I T E D
     
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