Reporting SOL

Discussion in 'Credit Talk' started by chrisb, Jun 7, 2004.

  1. chrisb

    chrisb Well-Known Member

    I live in NC but may be moving to NY in a few months for a new job. The question is this. First, is it correct that NY has a 5 year SOL for reporting? If so, and I move there, and one of my accounts comes up on the 5 year mark how would I inform the CRA that it now, since I live in NY, is due to come off?

    Also does anyone know the SOL on CC's in NY for lawsuit?

    Thanks,

    ChrisB
     
  2. jam237

    jam237 Well-Known Member

  3. jam237

    jam237 Well-Known Member

  4. chrisb

    chrisb Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the info.

    OK So New York has 6 years as their SOL for open accounts. If you have a debt incurred in state A with a 3 year SOL which has expired, then move to state B with a 6 year SOL would that mean that I would loose my SOL defense?

    Thanks

    ChrisB
     
  5. Hedwig

    Hedwig Well-Known Member

    Can you send them a "pound sand, you're past SOL" letter before you move? I'm not sure how it affects it legally, though.

    As far as I know, the CRAs are pretty good about dropping the reporting at the 5-year mark.

    Interesting that in NY the SOL for reporting is shorter than for suing!!
     
  6. chrisb

    chrisb Well-Known Member

    These are sleeping dogs. I don't want to wake them, but didn't correctly think about the implications of moving at 4 years and a few months and having to worry about the SOL no longer being out if I move. I guess I'll have to worry about that adding a year and a half to the sue-ability as a negative on the job offer, and 2 years deleted from the bad stuff on my CR to the good side and consider this.

    Thanks to all for the helpful info.

    ChrisB
     
  7. Why Chat

    Why Chat Well-Known Member

    New York has a 5 year limit for reporting on PAID accounts.

    The unpaid accounts are still 7 years.

    New York State has, however, a "borrowing statute"

    New York's borrowing statute, CPLR 202, states that an action based upon a cause of action which accrues outside of this state , the claim must be timely under both the law of New York and the jurisdiction where the claim accrued.

    This means that if you defaulted, (cause of action) in a shorter SOL State, and then moved to NY,your SOL for being sued would still be in the State where your cause of action accrued(started).
     
  8. jam237

    jam237 Well-Known Member

    Why Chat is the MASTER... As far as finding all the state laws is concerned...
     
  9. Shanyl

    Shanyl Well-Known Member

    So am I understanding this correctly? The SOL pertains to where the credit contract (committment) was initiated in and not where you currently reside?

    IOW, if I have a CA in a state where I use to live - and the SOL is 4 years but now I live in a new state where the SOL is 6 years, because the CA was initiated in state A - I can use the SOL as it's now past that time. ????


    {{{my brain needs more room}}}

    Shanyl
     
  10. Hedwig

    Hedwig Well-Known Member

    I don't think it's every state, but looks like NY has that law. Might as well take advantage of it!!
     
  11. Shanyl

    Shanyl Well-Known Member

    Ah......... never mind. Found my own answer.

    "What state should I use in figuring out the Statute of Limitations? The SOL can be either where the debtor resides or where the contract was signed. It has nothing to do with where the creditor is now. "

    Thanks anyways!

    Shanyl
     
  12. jam237

    jam237 Well-Known Member

    And in the case of some states, like NY, they'll take their SOL off the table if the 'originating' SOL is shorter than theirs, so looks like you could tell them to not contact you again, its time-barred and move (although you don't get the 5 year reporting SOL unless you pay them, at least you don't have to hear from them again.)
     
  13. pd11604

    pd11604 Well-Known Member

    Yes, you have it exactly right
     
  14. Why Chat

    Why Chat Well-Known Member

    Be VERY careful, a State's "borrowing" statute is based on which State "the cause of action accrued".

    "cause of action" means first default, "accrued" means begun.

    This means the account MUST have DEFAULTED IN THE SHORTER SOL STATE!!!.

    If you open an account in a 3 year SOL State, and then move to a 6 year SOL State, and have your first delinquency in the 6 year State, THAT is the legal SOL.
     
  15. Shanyl

    Shanyl Well-Known Member

    Thanks jam237. This makes sense and is what I thought but now you raise another need of clarificaiton. You said:

    Huh??? I have to pay to claim the SOL, essentially just being able to get it dumped off my CR?

    Shanyl
    (am I the only one who's brain needs draino?)





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  16. Shanyl

    Shanyl Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: Reporting SOL

    Hi Col! Don't fall off your chair but I *think* I'm catching on. You really help me have a better understand of this. Thanks so much!

    I'm just left with needing clarification as to when I can use it.

    Truly, it IS coming!

    Shanyl
     
  17. jam237

    jam237 Well-Known Member

    Since the 5 YEAR REPORTING SOL is only if its paid, see WhyChat's first post, so since its beyond SOL now in your state, you could tell them to C&D now, and then move to NY, but you won't be able to get the repoting to fall off, since its unpaid.

    Now, if the entry is under a CA, the CA may fall off when you C&D, especially when you tell them that the matter is time-barred. (I just had a CA who has been a major pain in the kiester, actually delete without disputing (again) their tradeline after they, the CA they hired, and the OC all received a copy of a time-barred C&D. :)
     
  18. Why Chat

    Why Chat Well-Known Member

    If you are beyond SOL, and send the CA the SOL letter from my website, and follow up with the letter to the CRA which is posted on the SOL letter site, you stand a VERY good chance of deletion.

    No guarantees- but it is less expensive, and MUCH less risk than paying a CA a ¢.
     
  19. chrisb

    chrisb Well-Known Member

    One more thought on this one. The 5 year reporting in NY is if it's paid. Wouldn't (technically) the OC who sold / transferred the debt to a CA who now shows a $0 balance be technically paid and therefor required to fall off at the 5 year mark? Then only the CA who is unpaid can report for the 7?

    I know that potential creditors are supposed to look at your transferred / multiple CA's dinged ya for the same OC's account as one unit, but I feel that they might get confused (I get confused and I know what companies I owe to) so if this were the case, and the OC's with $0 balances would fall off, my credit report may look better at quick glance. I am also annoyed by a OC who never sold, showing a high $ balance, then the CA is on there with a higher balance and then the CR shows that I'm $A + $B in debt.

    Oh well, sorry to rant and rave.

    ChrisB
     

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