REPOST: Proof that scores are a JOKE

Discussion in 'Credit Talk' started by CCN steve, Apr 13, 2003.

  1. CCN steve

    CCN steve Moderator

    LKH asked me to remove a post he made, and I accidentally removed the thread instead. Apologies are extended all around. This was an easy error to make, but I promise to be much more careful! I did press the backup arrow in the browser and was then able to at least copy the messages, so they will follow in this thread.

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  2. CCN steve

    CCN steve Moderator

    Proof that scores are a JOKE

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    Proof that scores are a JOKE
    [color="136086"]snuffels[/color]
    [color="999999"] | 39 posts since Aug 2002 ____________ 152.163.206.193 _ [color="999999"]|[/color] _ 04.12.2003 @ 19:48[/color]

    [color="444444"]On experian I had a score of 624 and pulled another report once a bankruptcy was removed
    and now my score is 622. Everything was identical
    except for the bankruptcy removal and rather than score going up it went down.

    Isnt it just great[/color]

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    Re: Proof that scores are a JOKE
    [color="136086"]LKH[/color]
    [color="999999"] | 6064 posts since Apr 2000 ____________ 209.180.113.157 _ [color="999999"]|[/color] _ 04.12.2003 @ 19:54[/color]

    [color="444444"]This is a fake score that doesn't matter. Did this fall off due to the 10 year reporting period, or, did you dispute it off?[/color]

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    Re: Proof that scores are a JOKE
    [color="136086"]crofttk[/color]
    [color="999999"] | 9 posts since Apr 2003 ____________ 204.27.156.146 _ [color="999999"]|[/color] _ 04.12.2003 @ 20:02[/color]

    [color="444444"]I'm a nuby, so I'll ask: How is that a fake score ?[/color]

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    Re: Proof that scores are a JOKE
    [color="136086"]LKH[/color]
    [color="999999"] | 6064 posts since Apr 2000 ____________ 209.180.113.157 _ [color="999999"]|[/color] _ 04.12.2003 @ 20:26[/color]

    [color="444444"]Well, to start with it isn't a real fico based score. Experian created their creditexpert score for their online credit report service. It resembles a fico score, but uses only a few of the different data types a fico score uses. The Experian Creditexpert score is in most cases over or under a true fico score by anywhere from 10 to 100 pts. It is much the same as the Trans Union fako score. You can go to TU's site and order the TU proprietary score and also order the TU fico score. You'll see an amazing difference.

    This is straight from the Experian site:

    The Experian credit score is provided to help you better understand how lenders view your creditworthiness. As your data on your credit report changes, it is normal to see fluctuations in your score. understanding the score factors may be more meaningful than the actual score itself. Your score is not an endorsement or a determination of your qualification for a loan. Each lender has specific underwriting standards, so you should not assume that you will receive the same evaluation from each lender. As part of the underwriting process, lenders will incorporate additional information you provide and may obtain references. The Experian credit score is calculated based on many of the same criteria utilized by banks, mortgage lenders, and loan companies and therefore closely approximates the typical consumer credit score that is used to determine creditworthiness. Experian does not represent that the Experian credit scores are identical in every respect to any consumer credit scores produced by another company.[/color]

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    Re: Proof that scores are a JOKE
    [color="136086"]DISPUTER[/color]
    [color="999999"] | 377 posts since Sep 2002 ____________ 64.12.96.107 _ [color="999999"]|[/color] _ 04.12.2003 @ 20:38[/color]

    [color="444444"]How old was the bankruptcy?[/color]

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    Re: Proof that scores are a JOKE
    [color="136086"]crofttk[/color]
    [color="999999"] | 9 posts since Apr 2003 ____________ 204.27.156.146 _ [color="999999"]|[/color] _ 04.12.2003 @ 20:45[/color]

    [color="444444"]Thanks, LKH.

    Looks like true FICO is the comparison basis folks' discussion centers on. You gave me plenty of text to generate search strings from and I'll work on ejucatin' myself ![/color]

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    Re: Proof that scores are a JOKE
    [color="136086"]lbrown59[/color]
    [color="999999"] | 8852 posts since Feb 2001 ____________ 205.188.197.31 _ [color="999999"]|[/color] _ 04.12.2003 @ 21:56[/color]

    [color="444444"]Fico may be the real score but it doesn't begin to reflect reality.[/color]

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    Re: Proof that scores are a JOKE
    [color="136086"]LKH[/color]
    [color="999999"] | 6064 posts since Apr 2000 ____________ 209.180.113.157 _ [color="999999"]|[/color] _ 04.12.2003 @ 22:18[/color]

    [color="444444"]{to lbrown59} Thank you for the 8850th time.[/color]

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    Re: Proof that scores are a JOKE
    [color="136086"]rackt3[/color]
    [color="999999"] | 607 posts since Jun 2002 ____________ 24.118.241.79 _ [color="999999"]|[/color] _ 04.12.2003 @ 23:47[/color]

    [color="444444"]Is there love in the air, or is it just me?[/color]

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    Re: Proof that scores are a JOKE
    [color="136086"]snuffels[/color]
    [color="999999"] | 39 posts since Aug 2002 ____________ 152.163.206.193 _ [color="999999"]|[/color] _ 04.13.2003 @ 07:14[/color]

    [color="444444"]It was disputed off.[/color]
     

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