Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Somebody FLAMES me... George can be cantankerous, no doubt about that -- I hope he wouldn't deny that streak, lol. As for how to treat newcomers, I agree with you 100%. I actually do like Marc, although I can't say I like everything I've seen him do. I think he has a lot to learn about how to treat newcomers to this board. On the other hand, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt: Although he seems to have replaced his generous stock of good credit advice with attempts to teach us how to treat one another and how best to make use of Creditnet, perhaps he believes that's what's best. I just miss some of the old topical wisdom about credit! Agreed. Agreed, agreed, and agreed. Doc
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Somebody FLAMES me... I don't know, humblemarc, I know you believe that (or else you wouldn't write it obviously), but I'll add my dissent there. I've seen you bark with very disrespectful language that doesn't speak to humility at all. Open your mind and be willing to learn from us too on this score. We'll all benefit. Doc P.S. By the way, I'm guilty of barking myself, so I'm not reaching for that pedestal in this case!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Somebody FLAMES me... I'm supposed to show up. I participate on this board. I never proclaimed emphatically (several times at that) that I was leaving this "crap" board. Why did you show up? I agree that people need to read to educate themselves for the best success. And I've told people as much on this board. But there's a time and a way in which to communicate that principle. (hint: It would NOT be as a response to someone's very first question on the board). Somewhere in your stores of wisdom, I'm sure that you've heard the saying that delivery is often more important than content... PsychDoc, I appreciate your comments. I have a lot to learn as well.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Somebody FLAMES me... WeatherNLU: Pardon me, only a newbie here, but I didn't see something mentioned in this thread: In many forums, you have the option to correspond by PM or e-mail (IF they have it turned on). If you're new and you get slapped or challenged, perhaps private talk with the challenger could help straighten it out. Of course, if you owe and apology, I would think it would behoove you and your hopes for integration with this community (assuming you harbor them) to offer that apology publicly. Sorry if I missed the above already being said. (no, I'm not mycroft)
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Somebody FLAMES me... The debate on how to treat newbies is ongoing.. and I agree with marci on this one.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Somebody FLAMES me... LOL, there are probably hundreds of people out there who are paying less credit card interest and whose credit scores are higher because you show up, marci. Doc
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Somebody FLAMES me... I also didn't see the thread i question, so I'm not sure what happened. However, I advocate that one has to give respect to earn respect. If WeatherNLU was being belittled for not knowing certain acronyms, and being "barked" at and being told to "read the first 3 threads", then I dont think WeatherNLU is at fault here.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Somebody FLAMES me... btw- we obviously haven't resolved OUR issues. that's a shame. . .
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Somebody FLAMES me... Agreed, and I suggest a newbie taking a conflict offline with a Pro/Vet may generate respects on both sides. Me neither, but I RESPECTFULLY decline to insert myself in a debate the "cadre" can engage in.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Somebody FLAMES me... I'm not trying to flame anyone here, but I really do think it's time to let people fight their own battles.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Somebody FLAMES me... Well there is no need for a battle. I am so sorry for having caused all of this, and not that George cares, but I was only trying to contact him personally to apologize so that THIS did not happen. See, oh humble one, there was an excellent reason that I had to want to keep it off the board. Anyway, not that George can see this, but I apologize for the adjective I used, however, I don't apologize for the situation. I did not come to this board for a lecture or for people with condesending attitudes. Thanks Doc and especially Marci. I know you saw what went down and that I was not the only one at fault. Thanks for your words.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Somebody FLAMES me... Nah, you weren't the cause of any of this, believe it or not. Don't forget -- and this is true of any collection of human beings, this group certainly not excepted -- all of us have been dealing with our own respective issues long before you showed up. Also, you bring your own issues with you too. I hope you'll stick around regardless. Doc
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Somebody FLAMES me... Without a doubt Doc, I am staying. I still have so much to learn, like how to successfully do "bumpage". I'll figure these things out sooner or later. I have grown to be a very frequent visitor, so I am not going anywhere.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Somebody FLAMES me... We all just have to work around different personalities here. most get along, some may clash, but we all mesh together for a common goal(everyone except for the trolls). WALLST
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Somebody FLAMES me... After numerous declarations of your intentions to never post on this "crap" board again, yeah, I think you do need a reason to show up. Good question. Why did you? A nice quality to exercise is called "egalitarianism". It means that, on first impression, treat people the same across the board. And, here's a corollary (I'm assuming that this is in your stores of wisdom, too): "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all". Especially to first and second time posters. Especially to them. Yes, Marc, that statement applies to you... and to me... and to anyone who dispenses advice. The delivery is almost always more important than the content. My issues with you were resolved when I sent you the private e-mail on another board. I told you that I was sending it just so that I could take my "humblemarc angst", articulate it, and bring closure to myself. And I did. I have no issues with you anymore. WeatherNLU - this isn't all your fault. There is a bit more history here than you realize. You owned up to what you said (and this was important to do), and apologized to GEORGE. Hoepfully he will extend an olive branch to you and we can all move on to happier CreditNet adventures.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Somebody FLAMES me... well said, marci. GEORGE...I think you're a terrifc cnet resource, but I think this time you were being a little too sensitive. My 2 cents...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Somebody FLAMES me... That may be a good idea. In my book, it does, particularly when it's the first time you're "meeting" someone. And the environment in which one's kindness is not "nice" or "pleasant" or "polite" or "friendly" is generally called "tough love" (with love being the operative term). And this doesn't happen until some type of invested relationship is formed. Are you saying that you are able to develop that type of "tough love" realtionship with new posters on the first exchange? If you can, my hat goes off to you. And, if you can't, then you risk having your "kindness" without the "niceness" mistaken for self righteousness and arrogance. LOL! Good. So that means then that you, being the humble person that you are, will see the merit of my argument to you. Thank you for seeing value in what I write. I've never been more sure of anything on this board.
