Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The judge stole my documents! Why would Greenvan want to appeal? She/He already has a default judgement in their favor? Appealing would mean reopening the case and giving the defendent an opportunity to appear in court! Greenvan.....Take your money and run.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The judge stole my documents! I didn't say greenvan would want to appeal, jlynn brought that up. I asked what the reason would be to keep the documents once the time limit for appeal had passed. It doesn't make sense that the courts could retain your personal documents indefinitely.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The judge stole my documents! Once Greenvan presented them as evidence to the Judge they became a record of the court, regardless of whether they were personal property or not. Now Greenvan could have asked the Judge to ask the court clerk to make copies and return the originals at the time, but it's not really the clerk's responsibility to do this. I don't know what the statute of limitations is on retention of records (depends on the state) but I'm going to guess it's 7-10 years. I like the previous posters reply to keep pestering the court clerk for the return of the originals. They may consider. It's probably just easy to get certified copies from the clerk's office or reorder originals from each of the sources.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The judge stole my documents! Thanks for everyone's inputs. I'll probably just chalk this one up to experience and remember next time not to hand the judge my originals. I still do not understand why the judge was allowed to keep my original documents since I did not knowingly turn these documents over to the court. I was standing before the judge waiting on her to decide the case in my favor because the defendant had failed to appear. The judge ask to see the inquiry on my credit report, and so I showed her the inquiry on my original Trans Union and Experian credit reports only to satisfy her question. The judge asked if I had my Deed of Trust with me, and I handed her a packet of closing documents which included my HUD Statement, Bank Note and Deed of Trust (all stapled together) so she could find what she was looking for in the Deed of Trust and again only to satisfy her question. She took these documents from my hand and studied them. I fully expected her to return all of these documents to me just as I have seen other judges request information from a plaintiff/defendant, examine the information, and then return that information to its owner. I was shocked when she confiscated my documents. To restate: I did not knowingly turn these documents over to the court; I thought I was only showing them to the judge during the course of the hearing because she had specifically asked to see them and only to satisfy her specific question. If she had asked to see my drivers license, I would have showed her that too (and I would not have brought a copy of my drivers license to court). I guess I was not familiar enough with the rules of the local court. In my experience, the judge ALWAYS returned the docs to the plaintiff/defendant after reviewing them, and so this definitely caught me by surprise. Someday I'll ask a local attorney what the heck was going on with this particular judge. Greenvan is a he.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The judge stole my documents! WHY COULDN'T THE JUDGE HAVE COPIES MADE AND RETURNED THE ORIGINALS??? I still don't see the need to THEFT PERSONAL PROPERTY... Even "IF" some don't "THINK" it is THEFT...why can they not return them NOW??? IT IS OVER AND DONE WITH
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The judge stole my documents! Did the judge really "THINK" the OWNER OF THE DOCUMENTS WILL NEVER NEED THEM AGAIN???
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The judge stole my documents! WE ARE TALKING LEGAL DOCUMENTS HERE...NOT ILLEGAL DRUGS!!!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The judge stole my documents! I guess I shouldn't complain too much about this judge...after all, she did sign her John Henry on $3,000 worth of judgments in my favor (and maybe I'll see her again in November when I bring two more cases to small claims court). This is one reason why I don't want to take it up the ladder just yet. As long as the judges are signing judgments in my favor, I can live with a few of their idiosyncrasies!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The judge stole my documents! I wonder if this judge puts attorneys representing creditors through the same protocol when handing out default judgements?
Re: Re: Re: The judge stole my documents! Completely preposterous. Items of personal importance are always returned after a reasonable time. Show me where they are allowed to keep titles and birth cirtificates and other such important stuff. Why do you think Monica got her blue dress back? lol .
