So.... not presenting ID is the answer. Your missing the point, the service and the checking are the issue, not the ID. Stupid/idiotic/simpleton, whatever the label was at fault here as was the CRIMINAL. Let's put blame where it belongs. The criminal stole YOUR property and the clerk failed to check the ID properly if at all. Lack of responsibility on someone elses part does not create the need to throw out good policy or procudure. I'm sure the criminal got off b/c daddy was an alcoholic and mom didn't love him/her enough and the clerk was probably promoted to store/branch manager. The only one who go tthe shaft was you. Go figure.
Those are great inventions and until everyone has them, just present the ID with the card. Another thing people should never do to help combat the plague known as the non-caring, too busy talking with their friends while working cashier. Don't carry your cards with your ID. If you have the cards stolen, at least they won't be able to pass your ID to the cashier as well b/c they, the cashier, won't be able to tell that you, a 6'3 73 year-old male of Croation/Russian decent is not the person, a 5'2 female of Korean decent, that is presenting the ID for the purchase. The real problem is the people they have working at these places. 18 year olds that have the mentality of 9 year olds and complain b/c they "only" make 10 dollars an hour at Wal-Mart.
Didn't see this addressed here but I may have missed it. There still seems to be a question about whether stores can ask for ID or not. People have written compelling of both answers being true. BUT--if the store's policy is to check ID then EVERYONE'S ID should be checked. That's it. No discretion except maybe for cards w/ a picture. It is discretion that leads to abuse, humiliation & embarrassment. If everyone is being checked then essentially this is the store's policy and either like it or leave it. Your choice at that point. It shouldn't be left to whim.
FYI, I just made a deposit at my bank... asked for $100 back... they asked for NO ID... this is a damn bank and didnt ask for id.. why then on a 8.99 boston market meal do they want it! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! i wanted to get into it at the bank but decided against it.
Because the retail place cares more than the bank does. I went to my CU approximately 5-6 months ago to get a money order so I could buy a car I found. The money order was for 1900.00 dollars. I walk up to the counter, I give my account number and say I need a money order for 1900.00 dollars. Now mind you, I have my wallet in my hand expecting to be asked for ID, NOTHING, just sign here please. You couldn't read my signature if you tried, signed it and walked out with a MO that could be issued to anyone. Later that day, I went back to the CU, closed my account and went to the %/3rd bank down the street, asked them if they ask for ID during transactions, replied they do, and I opened an account. They have asked for it everytime. Just piss poor lazy performance by people. No excuses for this kind of service/behavior.
If they say UP-FRONT (WITH A BIG SIGN) that you have to show ID with a credit card fine...I WILL LEAVE WITH-OUT BUYING ANYTHING...but if they wait till it is time to pay...LIKE A RESTAURANT...you can't back out... F.Y.I. ALL MY CARDS ARE SIGNED WITH MY NAME LIKE IT SAYS TO... "VOID IF NOT SIGNED" MEANS JUST THAT... "NOT VALID UNLESS SIGNED" A QUESTION TO ALL YOU "CID" PEOPLE...AND PEOPLE WHO DON'T CARE IF THEY ASK FOR ID (EVEN ON A SIGNED CARD)...why to the credit card companies put this on the card if they NEVER wanted you to sign the card???
Your right MandyB, discretion should be removed from everything. Of course I'm being sarcastic. Then don't get made when you get a traffic ticket and you have this great, well, formerly great, driving record, and your insurance will go up and on and on b/c nowadays, most police departments say write EVERYONE a ticket which I though of as foolish. I used to use discretion to give a ticket like your speed, driving record, weather conditions, kids in the car, carelessness, etc, etc. Now, I can't consider what your reason, how great your record has been for the last 20 years, that truck was going to cut you off, I was trying to pass the big rig that was swerving my way, all excuses that were given some weight before. Now it was too bad, I feel for you but sign here please. I don't have any discretion in the matter.
The back of my card just says "Authorized signature" My DL has my signature as well. They could check my signature against that as well. Now they have two forms of proof of my identity. So much the better since if I didn't have your DL, I could get somewhat close to your signature on the card by practicing a little bit. Don't sign the card and you don't have to worry b/c you've written in the box, check ID....
Strange, isn't it? However, at the Boston Markets here in Orange County, any order less than $20 doesn't even require a signature! So, why did they ask for id? (Did you write "See ID" on the back? Then they followed your instructions.)
OMG! That's just plain stupid for that CU to do! For me, any withdrawal over $200 must have 2 forms of ID - DL and ATM Pin# - let alone $1900! That teller should be fired (and probably will be too) unless they know you very well.
I din't say discretion should be removed from EVERYTHING. I just think that it shouldn't apply here. Of course there are always exceptions but if a sign is posted clearly and everyone is asked for their id then it is your choice to shop/dine/whatever at that particular establishment. Sounds like George would take his business elsewhere and I might too. Kind of how I only shop at stores where I agree w/ their return policy. I would just feel better knowing that everyone is being asked and I am not being singled out. As one poster said, the ID thing can be used for profiling/harassment. It happened to me a few times when I lived in another area of the country and I can still remember how those times made me feel. And yes, you can follow up w/ the corp. office as I did but that doesn't take the sting away from it having happened. People have all kinds of axes to grind and I am just suggesting trying to eliminate the enforcement of someones personal prejudice. And what is the criteria to ask for id selectively if the card is signed and the person APPEARS to be the right sex of the name? That you might look like someone suspicious? Sounds pretty subjective to me.
Gosh, Mandy, I just cannot BELIEVE that you think that discretion should be removed from everything. How could you stake out a position like that? I'm quitting Creditnet. Goodbye. Doc P.S. LOL.
What about this; I am at staples and they swipe my card through the register have me sign it, & then pull out one of those ancient card imprinters & have me sign that too! I sais to the girl, what's up with this? She says any sale over $400.00 is required to have both types of receipts. I said, what if I get billed twice? Says oh no, it's for your protection! What protection? I didn't have time to get in to it, and needed what I bought, so I just left, but it still leaves me wondering. I think technically I would be responsible for paying for it twice, according to Visa rules.
that happened to me too at Bath and Body works... my card wouldnt swipe so she pulls out a 1948 credit card device... <begin 20something chat> im like UHM no... shes like UHM yes.. im like ok then every single thing from the receipt needs to be copied over.. shes like well you dont get a copy of this.. im like i been shopping here since 1994... you wanna lose a customer? shes like ok you can have a copy... im like i want the carbons too! rememeber the days of carbons! <end 20something chat>
AT WAL*MART if we "KEY IN A CARD" we have to have get a crayon or rub with a pen on it's side to get an imprint (on the receipt~it is automatically made extra long) of the card with the name, account number, and expire date so somebody can't come back later and say they were never in the store...BUT NOT A SECOND CREDIT CARD RECEIPT. AAA used to do that not too long ago...for membership...and it was under $100 on top of the credit card authorizing machine receipt!!!
